Quick change for 2003 animated Teen Titans God Tiers (if they have a profile)

[RavenSupreme]

People like Raven hang at Sub-Relativistic due to Kid Flashes speed and how everyone scales from him.

I just checked and realized the Kid Flash calculation is actually true Relativistic, not Sub.

https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-bl...s-lightspeed-in-the-episode-lightspeed.36927/

-> 54,323, 757.57 m/s or 0.18 c

Our Relativistic range begins at 0.1c.

To compare: Kid Flash getting tagged and outdone consistently by the EOS Big Bads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-t_fRs-Cp8

Not holding back. Getting outsped and outmanouvered. Getting out of breath etc.

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In the final battle Madame Rouge and all the others engage in a massive brawl where especially the top tiers scale to each other in combat.

Proposal: Change from current Sub-Rel to Rel. Its the go-to referrence when asked about the speed scaling either way, so might as well use the correct tier.

 

[Antvasima]

This seems fine to me.

 

[RavenSupreme]

Since its just a minor tweek I dont expect a discussion. I will apply the change.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Fine to me too.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, Madam Rouge, who was quite easily keeping up with Kid Flash in the episode Lightspeed, gets tagged by quite a few people in Titans Together alone. Cyborg, Wildebeest, Hotspot, Beast Boy, Jinx, Starfire, etc.

 

[Js250476]

Relativistic TT ƒæî

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

 

[Js250476]

Yeah that's where Relativistic is from

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Yeah, didn't see the calc before posting.

Does Robin scale too?

 

[Js250476]

Well I remember evidence was posted that Robin scales to cyborg at least

Plus IIRC he also reacted to sub Relativistic alien pods so it might not be an outlier

 

[RavenSupreme]

Teen Titans Robin is Superhuman, plain and simple.

One of the strongest "regular dude" Robin versions out there.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

RIP Young Justice then.

Do we considered the comic as canon? I Think I remember seeing some good feats in them.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Given they could keep up with and catch Starfire and Blackfire mid flight, who are pretty darn consistently FTL, alien pods may actually be higher than that.

 

[RavenSupreme]

You mean the 2003 Teen Titans comic? I dont know if we should consider it canon.

If we do, a lot of scalings will differ.

I would not suggest it. 2003 TT usually only points to the show.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I see.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I agree with the upgrade.

 

[Js250476]

It is hilarious how consistent FTL Starfire is ( like outright explains she's gone FTL before and Blackfire allegedly escaped a black hole before)

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Slade should get upgraded as well if Robin scales to this too.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Yeah I was just about to bring that up. In one of the first few episodes of the animated series, Starfire literally explains the secret of traveling FTL to Robin.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

No kidding, I believe that's her first ever line on the entire show

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Was it during Episode "Sister" or "Divide and Conquer"?

 

[Js250476]

Divide and Conquer IIRC

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Also, Aqualad shattered huge stone in episode "Wavelenght", I wonder if that can be calced.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I'm also certain it's Divide & Conqueror ?

Also... I remember a reference that TTG's Raven & Teen Titans' Racen are the sane Raven. They reference in TTG through a song their previous life of being 'serious' heroes , which included the prevous artstyle of the original Teen Titans . Would this upgrade Raven & Trigon to Low 2-C ? Or is that speculation ?

 

[Antvasima]

It is speculation. We probably have to consider them as separate timelines.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

What Ant said. It's no different from a DC reboot.

 

[RavenSupreme]

Antvasima is correct.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

So....Can this be added?

 

[Antvasima]

Didn't Raven apply the changes?

 

[RavenSupreme]

The changes have been applied already. Only Raven in her White Form so far. Have I missed a profile?

 

[Antvasima]

I don't know. Sorry.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Huh?

I thought the other characters are scaled to this as well.

 

[RavenSupreme]

Which? I think we can make a case for Starfire. But everyone else?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Also, Madam Rouge, who was quite easily keeping up with Kid Flash in the episode Lightspeed, gets tagged by quite a few people in Titans Together alone. Cyborg, Wildebeest, Hotspot, Beast Boy, Jinx, Starfire, etc.

^^^^

 

[RavenSupreme]

I will rewatch the episodes again. But it appears a little outlierish. Especially for guys like Wildebeest, Jinx and Hotspot.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I can see Hot Spot and Wildebeest being outlierish, but I remember Jinx attacked Madame Rouge before the latter could react first. (It's on the near end of episode "Lightspeed").