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Questions on Captain Marvel and her Black Hole feat

TheC2 said:
She's also pretty outlcassed by Green Hulk. She needed help to make him let go.
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Understood. Then we shall see if more data are available to help calibrate Carol.

On a side note, when are we allowed to make a profile for MCU Carol? The movie is out and some characters have had profiles here.
 
Anyway, should we add that Quasar mentioned that Binary is more powerful than himself?
 
It happened in Quasar #33-35, if anybody wants to find the comics.
 
Jasonsith said:
On a side note, when are we allowed to make a profile for MCU Carol? The movie is out and some characters have had profiles here.
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After Endgame comes out. Her mediocre showings in her own movie contradict WoG and all the marketing saying she's the strongest MCU hero.
 
It is easier to just scale her from being more powerful than Quasar, who is 4-B.
 
You can ask here if you wish: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2516200
 
I will update the page with a reference to the Quasar feat.
 
Thanks.

Now Carol is solar system by statement from Quasar to be stronger than himself, while Quasar fought Rachel Summers who is comparable to Jean Grey (Marvel Comics) who did this at anywhere from 7.64425184e41 joules or 182,702,003.8 yottatons TNT to 2.136e46 joules, or 5,105,162,524,000 yottatons TNT.

Anyone wishing to comment?
 
Going by the high end, Carol would be 1000 times weaker than the Silver Surfer, who Gladiator is comparable to, if not stronger. Makes sense.
 
Corret me if I'm wrong, but this would make Carol > 386 Foe on the 4-B scale? Sorry, I'm just not particulary familiar with making conversions between our units of measurement.
 
If you are talking about the Dark Phoenix Saga feat of eating a star, I think that Gladiator was shown as incapable of stopping her during the event. Marvel is very inconsistent.
 
Antvasima said:
If you are talking about the Dark Phoenix Saga feat of eating a star, I think that Gladiator was shown as incapable of stopping her during the event. Marvel is very inconsistent.
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True enough. It also doesn't help that they like to use Gladiator in particular to show someone being powerful.

I'm just trying to pin down exactly where Carol sits on the 4-B scale in Marvel. We seem to have at least 3 different levels of 4-B that various characters scale to from what I can see.

1 MegaFoe: The Sentry, Blue Marvel, WB Hulk, King Hyperion

386 KiloFoe: Thor, Green Hulk, Silver Surfer, Gladiator, etc.

Dark Phoenix Feat: Quasar, Rachel Summers, Jean Grey, Captain Marvel (???)

It just seems to me that if Quasar and the various Phoenix hosts scale higher then we'd tweak their justification a bit. Mainly due to their scaling chain leading back to the aforementioned Dark Phoenix eating a Star, which turns them out much lower than everyone else seemingly.
 
Yes, the Phoenix Force avatars/hosts were also shown as considerably more powerful than Thor, Hulk, etcetera, during the Avengers versus X-Men event.
 
Really, we can fix it by just removing the feat from Jean Grey's profile, IMO and just tweak her profile to say that she's stronger than Thor rather than likely, based on the fact that Phoenix Force hosts have commonly shown to be above him.
 
Well, the feat itself can remain, but we should also mention that Phoenix hosts are stronger than Thor, yes.
 
Huesito88 said:
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
I found some feats and scaling for Carol if anyone want's to see them.
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Any good feats?
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Please throw the feat in a calculation blog and ask the calc group to verify. Captain Marvel fans would thank you in advance.
 
 
Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
Hope these will help :D
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Mind splitting them into feats for Base Captain Marvel and Binary? And throw them at here so more calc group members can help.

Edit: I have thrown them.
 
On another note, captain marvel also has this one anti feat where she literally flies to the hulk, "knocks" him down, keeps punching him till she's tired.

Hulk just smiles, asks her if she's done, and proceeds to 1 shot her, I doubt anything less than binary is hulk/thor level or anything generally close
 
Carol easily handling Count Nefaria was a Brian Bendis story, and as such a characteristic massive outlier. He consistently doesn't care in the slightest about comparative power levels. The other feats seem fine though.
 
5-A maybe? However, I think that other characters likely also have to be rescaled as a consequence.
 
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