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There are nine moves total that qualify for lightspeed, all of which can be reacted to
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Questioning Pokemon Scaling
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Issue is, its the sunlight itself that is being absorbed as again, light is a form of energy.Dragonmasterxyz said:
Why would the beam, after sunlight is gathered, be made to not be made up of said sunlight?
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Either way, are we actually going to go back to the topic of this thread?
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Half of those are legendary.WeeklyBattles said:
And I agree with Dragon regarding Solarbeam.
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Flash Cannon, Light of Ruin, Power Gem, Flash, and Signal Beam are not legendary
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What is Light of Ruin? Like I never heard of that one. I'm curious.
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Light of Ruin is from a pokémon that uses the power collected from Xerneas/Yveltal to be alive. I don't think that is particularly normal. Excluding the fact that said pokémon doesn't interact with anything 'cept it's trainer at the end of X/Y. Nothing scales to it.
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You mean the super powered Immortal Flowette? Le's not forget no Pokemon even in game has ever reacted to this.
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Regular Floette learn it naturally
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No it cannot. Your very source states that only Eternal Flower Floette can.WeeklyBattles said:
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Isnt there literally no difference in capability between AZ's Floette and regular ones?
The only unique thing this one has is Immortality from AZ's ultimate weapon. I don't recall it ever being stated to be stronger than average Floette.
The only unique thing this one has is Immortality from AZ's ultimate weapon. I don't recall it ever being stated to be stronger than average Floette.
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Except that it's clear by the very series seeing as a normal Floette cannot use it. Meaning that this power is something granted by the Ultimate Weapon.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
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We don't know. Eternal Flower Floette does absolutely nothing. Heck, ig I even read bulbapedia right, it hasn't even been distributed. So nothing scales to it.
We don't know. Eternal Flower Floette does absolutely nothing. Heck, ig I even read bulbapedia right, it hasn't even been distributed. So nothing scales to it.
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Tbf, the unused data shows it to still be weaker than Florges by one BST, but well...game mechanics.
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Yeah, which is odd. i guess they forgot about the little flower fairy with a 140 base power move...
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Same as Mega Evolution for all Pokemon sans Rayquaza, being granted by Xerneas and Yveltals power.Dragonmasterxyz said:
That could be enough to let Megas and up scale from Floette's move if not other pokemon.
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Daily reminder that being stated to be a beam of light is nowhere near enough proof to be accepted as lightspeed, as per the hundreds of attempts to do so preceding this discussion.
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Well, flowers absorb sunlight. Floette uses its flower for the move.
Floette absorbs sunlight ovo
Floette absorbs sunlight ovo
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Which move are you talking about? Because I've definitely have more than enough evidence for Solar Beam.
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Everything that is not Solar Beam or Flash, which I am personally researching.
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Poliwrath literally runs to intercept it...
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Yeah that definitely isnt just reaction since Poliwrath is physically intercepting it.
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And again, I agree with Dragon that we should put combat/reaction speeds and with the Rhydon thing. Because that's what this thread is about.
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Pretty sure that'd just be short burst combat speed, it's not like he achieved the feat by circling several times around the globe, similar to ho early DB characters definitely take hours to fly from one side of the planet to the other but still can dodge and outpace relativistic beams for a short while.
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@Dark. Frankly, that doesn't even need to be there. Being able to throw at Sub-Rel speeds is enough to justify your speed rating.
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Well remember, Poliwrath was only fast enough to intercept it from his trainer, not dodge it.AguilaR101 said:
He still got hit by the attack.
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Throwing is strength related and not speed related, so that's blatantly false. Anyone with good lifting strength can throw according to our system.
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I think Aguila makes a good point, tbh.
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Im almost certain this was brought up before and agreed with to not be the case.Kepekley23 said:
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There. Are. Dozens. Of non-Pokémon profiles with that speed reasoning, if not more. I highly doubt you in this case.Kepekley23 said:
Granted, I don't know them off the top of my head...
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Solar Beam's only evidence for being lightspeed is it being fueled by sunlight (nevermind energy conversion being a thing). Why don't y'all ever talk about it creating shockwaves after being released, being able to explode into colored fireworks, being able to bend, and etc.?
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When did the bolded part happen?Kepekley23 said:
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Yes, because coming from a sun in 3-D games (don't give me that bs about move animations being not accepted, as Mugen Souls and Hyperdimension Neptunia's respective upgrades show you're wrong in that matter) and scientific computers saying it's formed of light isn't evidence enough.
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Pokémon move animations are not accepted here and never have been. Unless you're going to argue High 5-A everyone via Moonlight turning day into night in its animation. Stop with the string of false equivalences.
Solar Beam does not act like real light and there's zero evidence it is even literal sunlight as opposed to sunlight being its energy fuel. It can explode into literal colored fireworks, can bend, creates shockwaves when it is fired, and etc. It has several indications of not being legit. Trying to use one ambiguous description is flat out no.
Solar Beam does not act like real light and there's zero evidence it is even literal sunlight as opposed to sunlight being its energy fuel. It can explode into literal colored fireworks, can bend, creates shockwaves when it is fired, and etc. It has several indications of not being legit. Trying to use one ambiguous description is flat out no.
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