Puppet Master vs Elf King

[OneBleachHurricane]

Why wouldn't he? He's literally scaling to them on his page.

Really? Sakura's punches and Chiyo's mostly melee puppets are equivalent to Danmaku?

 

[VsReferee]

Can't King manipulate earth or even barren Sasori's puppets by extracting water?

 

[Kachon123]

Does he do it in character? If not stop arguing something he doesn't do.

Does he do what? Mix his abilities together? Yes, Yes he does.

 

[Kachon123]

Can't King manipulate earth or even barren Sasori's puppets by extracting water?

Yes.

 

[Arkenis]

Really? Sakura's punches and Chiyo's mostly melee puppets are equivalent to Danmaku?

What?? Im saying sakura and chiyo scale to dodging his attacks and he scales to them. He also scales above deidara who's able to dodge sasuke. Idk why you're trying to argue this danmaku is this good. Its not.

 

[DivineAura44]

Why is Kings danmaku anything impressive?

He has far more control then Sasori. Also why is Sasori more agile then Sakura.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Anything impressive for what? Iron sand?

Sigh...

Where are you getting that Sasori can just block Danmaku? Are you scaling his skill with Sand to Gaara's skill for some reason?

 

[Arkenis]

He has far more control then Sasori. Also why is Sasori more agile then Sakura.

Because he scales above her. Like what. He literally scales above deidara and sasuke > sakura. Idk why this push on agility is happening.

 

[DivineAura44]

Because he scales above her. Like what. He literally scales above deidara and sasuke > sakura. Idk why this push on agility is happening.

Agility equals speed now?

 

[Arkenis]

Where are you getting that Sasori can just block Danmaku? Are you scaling his skill with Sand to Gaara's skill for some reason?

He has iron sand. He himself scales above sakura who dodged his spam of abilities.

 

[Arkenis]

Agility equals speed now?

It literally means moving quickly and easily. So yes.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

What?? Im saying sakura and chiyo scale to dodging his attacks and he scales to them.

He doesn't scale to them in skill though? He only scales to them in speed for dodging their attacks

He also scales above deidara who's able to dodge sasuke.

Not in speed or did you not read their profiles?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

He has iron sand. He himself scales above sakura who dodged his spam of abilities.

Facepalm...

 

[DivineAura44]

It literally means moving quickly and easily. So yes.

Agility is your ability to move, not the speed at which you do it. This is how Gazelle dodge Cheetahs despite being slower.

 

[Arkenis]

Agility is your ability to move, not the speed at which you do it. This is how Gazelle dodge Cheetahs despite being slower.

But what does this have to do with Sasori? can he just not dodge sakura now?

 

[Arkenis]

I think you guys are stretching this agile thing a bit too much.

 

[Arkenis]

As I've said before, Sakura's agile being impressive is dependent on her actual speed, otherwise she would not be able to dodge the attacks so this agile point matters little.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I think you guys are stretching this agile thing a bit too much.

Because you're saying that because Sasori can dodge Sakura's punches and Chiyo's melee puppet attacks

Equals he can dodge Danmaku that can One Shot him

 

[Kachon123]

Because you're saying that because Sasori can dodge Sakura's punches and Chiyo's melee puppet attacks

Equals he can dodge Danmaku that can One Shot him

Mind you, some of his danmaku have aoe explosions, so dodging won't do anything. He will be caught up in the explosion

 

[DivineAura44]

But what does this have to do with Sasori? can he just not dodge sakura now?

Sakura doesn't compare to a bunch of Danmaku. I am arguing we don't have enough info to prove Sasori could even dodge his own Danmaku (and def not King's more skillful Danmaku).

 

[Arkenis]

Because you're saying that because Sasori can dodge Sakura's punches and Chiyo's melee puppet attacks

Equals he can dodge Danmaku that can One Shot him

Not saying that LOL. I'm saying sakura's dodging feats aren't actually impressive. Sasori scales to her.

 

[Arkenis]

Sakura doesn't compare to a bunch of Danmaku. I am arguing we don't have enough info to prove Sasori could even dodge his own Danmaku (and def not King's more skillful Danmaku).

Really don't see how pushing meliodas is impressive. if that's considered impressive then needle sphere is too.

 

[DivineAura44]

NGL, I don't like being triple teamed and bombarded with arguments. I will stop for now but if need be restate my points later.

 

[Arkenis]

So King's telekinesis isn't a win con
Kings Danmaku is at best gonna be a problem but it can be blocked through Iron sand.
Can King survive Sasori's poison?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Not saying that LOL. I'm saying sakura's dodging feats aren't actually impressive. Sasori scales to her.

That's not how it works though? How can he scale to Sakura's skill in dodging when all his shown is being able to dodge Sakura and Chiyo's attacks, and even then they were able to land hits on him

 

[speedster352]

So King's telekinesis isn't a win con
Kings Danmaku is at best gonna be a problem but it can be blocked through Iron sand.
Can King survive Sasori's poison?

Disater netralizes the posion. King can restrain with form 2 guardian and petrify at the same time

 

[speedster352]

So King's telekinesis isn't a win con
Kings Danmaku is at best gonna be a problem but it can be blocked through Iron sand.
Can King survive Sasori's poison?

Mind you, some of his danmaku have aoe explosions, so dodging won't do anything. He will be caught up in the explosion

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[VsReferee]

Sakura literally dodges his spam of puppets and his iron sand sphere which itself is danmaku. He's faster than her.

HOLD ON. Is this Sakura massively hypersonic?
Nanii?!

 

[Arkenis]

That's not how it works though? How can he scale to Sakura's skill in dodging when all his shown is being able to dodge Sakura and Chiyo's attacks, and even then they were able to land hits on him

Never outright landed hits on him without some plan or trick to get a hit.
and this agility thing for Sakura, she literally got hit by his Danmaku

 

[Arkenis]

HOLD ON. Is this Sakura massively hypersonic?
Nanii?!

Yes. she is. she's only agile cause of her speed not only cause she's good at dodging

 

[Arkenis]

Disater netralizes the posion. King can restrain with form 2 guardian and petrify at the same time

Not seeing that on his page, can you tell me when it happened? or show scan

 

[speedster352]

Not seeing that on his page, can you tell me when it happened? or show scan

Look at fossilization on kings page when he used it on ban

 

[Arkenis]

Look at fossilization on kings page when he used it on ban

that isn't neutralizing poison. Am I missing something?

• Form Three: Fossilization: Chastiefol takes on the form of a two-headed spear that petrifies whoever it cuts. King can utilize it in tandem with Form Two: Guardian, restraining his opponent with Guardian before shifting it to Form Three, preventing the opponent from dodging.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Never outright landed hits on him without some plan or trick to get a hit.
and this agility thing for Sakura, she literally got hit by his Danmaku

Seriously what kind of logic is this?

You're saying that Sasori scales to Sakura's skill in dodging for dodging her punches and Chiyo's puppets.

And that somehow enables Sasori to dodge King's Danmaku.

 

[Arkenis]

You're saying that Sasori scales to Sakura's skill in dodging for dodging her punches and Chiyo's puppets.

Not what I said, like at all. please stop saying that .

 

[DivineAura44]

that isn't neutralizing poison. Am I missing something?

• Form Three: Fossilization: Chastiefol takes on the form of a two-headed spear that petrifies whoever it cuts. King can utilize it in tandem with Form Two: Guardian, restraining his opponent with Guardian before shifting it to Form Three, preventing the opponent from dodging.

Think he is saying the spear is a poison which neutralizes the opponent through petrification.

 

[Arkenis]

Think he is saying the spear is a poison which neutralizes the opponent through petrification.

So he gonna petrify himself or something?

 

[speedster352]

that isn't neutralizing poison. Am I missing something?

• Form Three: Fossilization: Chastiefol takes on the form of a two-headed spear that petrifies whoever it cuts. King can utilize it in tandem with Form Two: Guardian, restraining his opponent with Guardian before shifting it to Form Three, preventing the opponent from dodging.

Disaster can neutralize posion

So he gonna petrify himself or something?

His magic power diaster will do that read about disater

 

[speedster352]

He was literally able to overwhelm Meliodas using TK to control 1 object. Imagine him using hundreds at the same time

Meliodas got a small cut, and because of Status Promotion, a cut the size of a paper cut nearly cut off Meliodas' arm

So he gonna petrify himself or something?

Here poison contol

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah anyway, I'm arguing Sasori gets one hit with his iron sand and poison King, don't see where King resists poison or how he negates it. Another thing is his Iron sand blocking all attacks. King does have ap advantage so I can see the Iron sand being damaged after a while.