Puella Magi misc revisions 3

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Wait, If Tiro finale lowers her dura, it is possible that Mami isn't actually a glass canon.

 

[Kaltias]

????

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Well, Mami get chomped by Bebe after she failed to kill her with Tiro Finale.

 

[SomebodyData]

No she is rated as a glass cannon in the in-verse tiering.

 

[Kaltias]

Which doesn't disprove that she is a glass cannon?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Ah...

 

[Kaltias]

It isn't even related to the tiering in-verse, it's because she is regularly harmed by stuff far, far below her own AP (Like Kyoko or Kirika, who are strong in their own right but not comparable to Mami in AP, same goes for most witches).

Plus Mami tanks attacks without too much damage a grand total of one time and it's from Gertrud whose AP is unknown

 

[Kaltias]

Btw guys, if someone wants to help adding "Self-Resurrection" to all the witches, that would be appreciated

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Btw guys, if someone wants to help adding "Self-Resurrection" to all the witches, that would be appreciated

Wal, Pat, Elly and Itzil: Done.

 

[Kaltias]

So, interesting question that came up.

If Lapin's power null that depowers power null resistant people is upscaled to 2-A, does it affect power null resistant 2-As?

 

[SomebodyData]

Idk, though then again their resistances are also upscaled so...

 

[RKGenki]

I'd normally assume that it gets upscaled too, like if it was a "side effect" of the hax which gets upscaled along with it, but now I'm not sure.

 

[Kaltias]

Also while we are revising the whole verse anyway, magical girls use portals to get in and out of barriers.

 

[Kaltias]

Also what power is "automatically counter/evade attacks"?

Some Memoria do that

 

[The_Everlasting]

Instinctive Reaction? I think?

 

[Peter1129]

Instinctive Reaction?

 

[RKGenki]

Maybe instintive reaction?

UI megucas

 

[Kaltias]

Anti-UI Tart then. And UI Mami.

Boi.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

What did I missed?

 

[Kaltias]

Ultra Instinct Moemura

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

Foolish Mortals, Ultra Instinct's NOT for Magical Girls.

They're weak hearted.

 

[SomebodyData]

Ah I see, anyways can ya stop derailing?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Just deletes his post (and some of mine too), they are eyesore.

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

Quite.

Okay, so are we done with the revisions? Or is there more to discuss?

 

[SomebodyData]

Anti-Instinctive Reaction Tart

Instinctive Reaction Moemura and Mami I think.

 

[RKGenki]

I don't think there's much to discuss if they're from Memorias, we might actually add them right away unless you want to discuss if it's considered game mechanics.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I mean, Magia record meguca has their own personal Memoria. Maybe we should only counted that.

 

[RKGenki]

The personal memoria is the one that relates to their personal story quests, but that doesn't mean they cannot have other memorias (they're based on their memories after all), it's just that they're based off of different events described in the memoria's description.

 

[Kaltias]

In general it's:

-Every magical girl gets her own personal Memoria

-Every magical girl gets the Memoria where she appears in the image/is present in the text.

Idk what we do for witches Memoria

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

About the second part, what about he Memoria where they appears as a group? Do all of them get the same Memoria?

Like this one.

 

[Kaltias]

Yes

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Hey Kal, I wonder if you can calc this. Not sure if this is a good speed feat or not, but I'm curious.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

There is also Kazumi shot Limiti Esterni from above the cloud (Attack Speed feat) And Seika summons Tsunami (AP feat).

 

[Kaltias]

Those feats are like double digits Mach or something.

The AP can't really be calced without knowing the size of the tsunami.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Both of them are only double digits mach?

Doesn't the video has some clouds in them? Can you determined how big the tsunami is?

 

[Kaltias]

Yes.

Yes but i really doubt that it would reach Low 7-C.

Without anything to scale, no

 

[Kaltias]

Last things (I think).

Sayaka never tanked the attack that one shot Elly, she threw a sword. However, Elly is a boss that you have to fight in Portable so Sayaka should still scale, just not being far above (in durability).

What's the proof that Akuma Homura's mind hax is passive/subconscious? I couldn't find it in Rebellion.

Where is it stated that UKG's Low 2-C curses are at her (supposed) peak?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Akuma's Homura's mind hax isn't passive or subconscious, she had to actively use it on Sayaka. Only Homulily's is within the witches barrier. Though one could make the argument that Akuma Homura still has that power.

Don't know the other stuff

 

[SomebodyData]

@Kal back when Homura discovers she was a witch, Kyubey explains that Homura had unconsciously used her mind hax and familiars to bring people she knew inside her barrier. (Which reminds me, Sayaka asks Homura as a Devil if she would destroy everything, Homura responds once the wraiths are gone, she will. [Just to add as more support for her tiering])

When UKG was still a comet/soul gem, Kyubey describes the sheer despair UKG had accumulated to have the weight to crush/destroy the universe.

@Monarch That scene is more likely that she used the power null rather than mind hax, given Oktavia goes away and the lack of acausality would cause the memory loss.

 

[Kaltias]

Yeah but this doesn't necessarily apply to someone other than Homulilly. Even more so when Sayaka wasn't mind haxed passively.

I know. What i'm saying is when it said that UKG's Low 2-C curses are at her peak, because to me it seems that he was saying "right now she has Low 2-C curses".

Kyubey doesn't really says "when she will reach her peak" or anything along those lines here.

We can add destroying existence to Homura's tier justification yeah