Project Zomboid Stamina/Endurance addition

[King_Dom470]

Another PZ CRT?
Stamina:
Athletic as a base is fine but with high sprinting they should totally be at least Peak Human: First things first they can run at top speed for close to 20 ingame minutes and only then start to get tired. btw that means that they can run 40 times longer than the average person, despite suffering crazy bloodloss and having fatal injuries a player is still able to push down multiple zombies with one arm while still getting further injuries, can fight for literally an entire day with a moderate injury, and FYI 10 minutes in project zomboid = 1 minute IRL so if you fight a horde for 6 minutes (Which isn't that long), in game you just fought for an hour straight, both of these players were trading shots with each other and suffering severe bloodloss and despite that they were barely effected for the first couple shots, and finally can take gunshots, stabs, blunt attacks and bleach poisoning and continue to run, fight and even win the altercation despite having no weapon or armour.

So yeah pretty simple

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Seems good to me.

 

[King_Dom470]

bump

 

[MarkGoldbridge]

Agreed.

 

[AThe1412]

I agree.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Marathon runners typically go for about 4 hours, this is extremely under peak human.

The length of day can literally be 24 hours IRL, I don't agree with weird interpretations of time equating to larger lengths of time as a result of that.

In the PvP video linked they are visibly knocked on their ass when struck by the force of a gun.

Like, the shots don't kill, but to claim they're indicative of peak human stamina relays to me that you don't really know what "peak human" entails- people have been shot before, man, it's not superhuman to endure it.

 

[King_Dom470]

The length of day can literally be 24 hours IRL, I don't agree with weird interpretations of time equating to larger lengths of time as a result of that.

The default is 10 minutes to 1 hour ingame

Marathon runners typically go for about 4 hours, this is extremely under peak human.

Even still one of the things I linked showed a dude fighting for close to a full day while injured and with no sleep

In the PvP video linked they are visibly knocked on their ass when struck by the force of a gun.

Fine but they get back up immediately afterwards

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Even at maximum in-game stamina, you will become exerted after a fairly short period of time. The fact that the game does not feature a pass-out mechanic isn't indicative of stamina. They are at best Athletic.

 

[King_Dom470]

Even at maximum in-game stamina, you will become exerted after a fairly short period of time. The fact that the game does not feature a pass-out mechanic isn't indicative of stamina. They are at best Athletic.

Fairly short meaning like ten minutes. Which is fairly above average couple that with the ability to fight for a day+ is easily peak human. Not to mention the pretty decent pain tolerance

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Being above average is the textbook definition of Athletic. You cannot fight for a full in-game day without becoming fatigued and exhausted, even at maximum fitness.

 

[King_Dom470]

Being above average is the textbook definition of Athletic

I was being modest. They can run for 40x longer than the average person.

You cannot fight for a full in-game day without becoming fatigued and exhausted, even at maximum fitness.

i linked a video where someone does just this. Granted they do have an exhaustion moodle but it’s the fact that they can keep fighting despite that, that’s impressive

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I was being modest. They can run for 40x longer than the average person.

i linked a video where someone does just this. Granted they do have an exhaustion moodle but it’s the fact that they can keep fighting despite that, that’s impressive

They cannot run as long as a peak human. You are not being modest.

They are exhausted. You, yourself, admit this. This isn't a stamina feat. This is based on faulty evidence. I'm becoming tired of twisted evidence being used to suggest an upgrade for a character that is, perhaps, one of the greatest feats of a game developer in terms of trying to keep their video game characters grounded.

 

[King_Dom470]

They are exhausted. You, yourself, admit this. This isn't a stamina feat. This is based on faulty evidence. I'm becoming tired of twisted evidence being used to suggest an upgrade for a character that is, perhaps, one of the greatest feats of a game developer in terms of trying to keep their video game characters grounded.

They can fight for a day+ regardless of if they’re exhausted or not they can fight through it. They also have insane pain tolerance

 

[Mr. Bambu]

The game doesn't feature a mechanic to cause you to... what, die of exhaustion? They show clear lack of energy, this isn't a stamina feat, and their pain tolerance also has no indication of superhuman capacity. You've been repeating "nuh-uh" for awhile now without refuting claims, this has been formally rejected.

For future context, because I've a feeling this will be attempted again without my knowing: the Project Zomboid player is rapidly exhausted in combat, so much so that they can barely function. They also feel a great deal of pain when inflicted with wounds which has an active detriment to their combat abilities, even a scratch on the hand is a noteworthy wound capable of putting the player down on combat efficiency on a notable scale. They survive these rigors, yes, but they do not have any exceptional ability to surpass human limits. Their stamina typically lasts on the scale of minutes to hours, nothing remotely approaching Olympian levels. One does not contest the rating of Athletic Human at their highest points- the feats are impressive compared to normal people. One contests the notion that anything remotely resembles peak human.

If this attempted again to subtly supersede this decision, bear this in mind.