Professional Wrestling General Discussion Thread

[Pikaman]

Then I don't really see why Top Tiers would scale to his feat

Am currently discussing this with Random in PMs…

 

[RandomGuy2345]

God Tiers: 5,367,524.97 Joules

Top Tiers: 2,842,127.28351 Joules

High Tiers: 1,614,799.77639 Joules

Mid Tiers: 1,000,000 Joules

Low Tiers: 310.7 Kilojoules

 

[Pikaman]

God Tiers: 5,367,524.97 Joules

Top Tiers: 2,842,127.28351 Joules

High Tiers: 1,614,799.77639 Joules

Mid Tiers: 1,000,000 Joules

Low Tiers: 310.7 Kilojoules

Much better

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Alright.

I think pitting God Tiers against people like Black Cat would be better now considering the AP upgrades.

Common Wachon123 W.

I wonder what other matchups are possible...

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Found a new LS feat that either the Mid or High tiers scale to.

Top Dolla holds up Kofi Kingston, Xavier Woods, and Butch (Pete Dunne).

Combining all of the weights of those 3 wrestlers (Kofi Kingston: 212 lbs) (Xavier Woods: 205 lbs) (Pete Dunne: 205 lbs) we get 622 lbs (282.134 KG; Peak Human LS).

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Ask him to calc da air hoekey table feat too

Didn't Pika say he would calc the air hockey feat soon?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Watching these WWE interviews and seeing how some of these pro wrestlers are just like us in a way is so cool.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I think I might found a really good speed feat for the verse: Matt riddle and chad gable are capable of riding laps around the Heritage Bank Center on scooters which has a area of 32,150m^2, or a circumference of 635.62m. Matt and Gable were capable of riding 7 laps of this in 1min and 40sec or roughly, 44m/s Subsonic.

This was briefly mentioned, but I feel this should be mentioned.

I mean, Matt Riddle are Chad Gable are capable of moving at Subsonic speeds via scooters.

The thing is that in order to achieve this level of speed, both Riddle and Gable will have to use their leg strength in order to do this.

I'm pretty sure it would take Superhuman levels of power in order to perform this feat.

Or maybe I'm just thinking too hard.

 

[Pikaman]

Yeah no. Not only is it a massive outlier, but if there’s any cuts AT ALL you could argue cinematic time

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Not only is it a massive outlier

How is it an outlier in any way?

 

[Pikaman]

How is it an outlier in any way?

Because it’s subsonic?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Because it’s subsonic?

And it's only done via scooters. Riddle and Gable aren't running.

This isn't the same as that one Big E feat I showed.

 

[Pikaman]

I guess, but it still probably uses Cinematic time

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I guess, but it still probably uses Cinematic time

Plus, I'm not trying to argue it's a speed feat for the verse.

I mean, yeah it kinda is. If we were to make a Matt Riddle profile, we can definitely add his scooter as standard/optional equipment, and then say he's Subsonic with the scooter.

But I was thinking a little deeper than that.

In order to move faster with a scooter, you have to use your leg strength to accelerate more and more. Afaik, the scooter Matt Riddle uses are just normal scooters. Though if we were to highball it and say it was an electric scooter, the average top speed of an electric scooter is 20 mph, which is somewhere around Athletic Human - Peak Human speeds.

However, Riddle and Gable were able to move at Subsonic speeds with the scooter, which is not normal at all. I feel like it would take Superhuman levels of strength in order to make the average scooter go at Subsonic speeds.

 

[Pikaman]

I guess but

A: Cinematic time
B: It’s not quantifiable

 

[Shmooply]

C: Cry about it lol

 

[RandomGuy2345]

C: Cry about it lol

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Some characters barely got to 9-A due to tackling someone at mach 5, so I doubt making a Scooter go at subsonic speeds would even get a megajoule

 

[Shmooply]

snip

big show crying is still my favorite wwe meme i stfg

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Some characters barely got to 9-A due to tackling someone at mach 5, so I doubt making a Scooter go at subsonic speeds would even get a megajoule

Oof.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/rating-pro-wrestling-finishers.143201/

Made a F&G thread if you're interested.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

HE'S HERE EVERYONE!

 

[RandomGuy2345]

WWE: Braun Strowman Slams Kane Through the Ring

vsbattles.fandom.com

AP UPGRADES FOR THE WWE VERSE!

This needs to be applied to the verse page.

 

[Pikaman]

You technically still need to get a CRT approved, even if it is a calculation of a type of feat already calculated using an already accepted method

 

[RandomGuy2345]

You technically still need to get a CRT approved, even if it is a calculation of a type of feat already calculated using an already accepted method

A calc member accepted it. We don't need a CRT (I think).

 

[Pikaman]

A calc member accepted it. We don't need a CRT (I think).

CRTs still have to be made for this kinda stuff.

The process goes like this

Calc is made -> Calc is approved by CGM -> CRT is made to ratify changes -> Staff Approve Changes -> Changes are applied to profiles

A CGM approving a calc only means the math checks out. Other staff or even regular members could disagree with you on who scales, or might know more about the context of the feat than the CGM, changing the validity of a calculated feat

As common sense as it is who scales, and ring breaking calcs just like this have already been applied, we still have to follow due process

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Lame ass process.

Whatever. I guess I'll make the CRT now.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

CRT has been made.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

1. How come we never made an Ultimate Warrior profile? We literally have a list of feats to use for him lol.
2. I kinda wanna make a Dolph Ziggler and/or John Morrison profile.

 

[Pikaman]

I feel like we owe the person who asked for a Sheamus profile to be made all the way back in 2016 getting that profile made

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I feel like we owe the person who asked for a Sheamus profile to be made all the way back in 2016 getting that profile made

Bruh how did you find this lol.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I feel like we owe the person who asked for a Sheamus profile to be made all the way back in 2016 getting that profile made

Anyways, we already have some good statements for how powerful the Brogue Kick is.

We just have to determine if he's a Top Tier or God Tier (I'd lean towards God Tier, but I wouldn't be mad at Top Tier).

 

[Pikaman]

Bruh how did you find this lol.

Back in the early stages of the verse kicking off it only took about 15 minutes to scroll through every result for “WWE” in the search bar, and there it was

 

[Pikaman]

Anyways, we already have some good statements for how powerful the Brogue Kick is.

We just have to determine if he's a Top Tier or God Tier (I'd lean towards God Tier, but I wouldn't be mad at Top Tier).

Definitely a God Tier, Sheamus will probably be a Grand Slam Champ in the coming months and has consistently tussled with the big boys

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Alright, so we now have 3 or 4 profiles we want to make.

I recommend we do Ultimate Warrior first, as we literally have a list of feats for him lol.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Definitely a God Tier, Sheamus will probably be a Grand Slam Champ in the coming months and has consistently tussled with the big boys

Yeah.

He had wars with the likes of Big Show and Drew McIntyre, and I believe he's beaten John Cena and Randy Orton as well.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Strength:

• Smashes Brother Love's podium.
• Hurls away Brother Love's podium then smashes Queen Sherri's throne.
• Snapped Hercules Hernandez’s chain in half
• Lifted and slammed Kamala, who is billed as weighing nearly 400 lbs.
• Scoop slammed Andre the Giant. Andre is billed as weighing in at over 500 lbs.
• Easily defeated Skinner. Skinner is a hunter who regularly wrestles with and kills alligators including ones that are 12 feet long.
• Effortlessly beat down Big Show. Big Show is strong enough to flip a 4400lb jeep.
• Broke out of a bearhug from Andre the Giant. Andre is capable of lifting 2000lb weights, and once flipped a car with four people in it.
• According to the Internet Wrestling Database, he fought and won against Kamala in three matches. Kamala is billed in his promo video as being "as strong as the largest animals known to man" IE: elephants, rhinos, hippos, etc. (Apologies for not having the videos for those matches, they've proven extremely difficult to track down.)
• Held his own in a test of strength against Hulk Hogan. Kayfabe Hulk Hogan claims he can crack fault lines.​

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  Agility:​
  • Scales up the sheer side of a building
  • Claims that if he needed to, he could swim across the Atlantic ocean and run across all seven continents.
  • Teleports into the ring in a puff of smoke and blitzes The Giant/Big Show to the ground before the smoke clears.
  • Blitzed Triple H in an infamous match.
  • Blitzed the Honky Tonk Man in a very short squash match.
  • Blitzed Andre the Giant in an even shorter squash.
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    Durability:
    • Got beaten down and choked with a steel bar, getting right back up and ragdolling grown men across the ring moments later.
    • No-sold Triple H’s Pedigree--one of the most deadly finishing moves in professional wrestling.
    • Implies that jumping off the tallest building in the world, being run over by lawnmowers, and being trampled by African elephants would all be survivable ways to prepare himself for his next fight.
    • Claims to have had a shard of crystal lodged in his skull by the Macho King, and to have left it in against the surgeon’s advice with no lasting consequences.
    • Was buried alive by Jake the Snake.
    • Survived a bite from one of Jake the Snake’s venomous cobras and was still strong enough to break down a barred door shortly afterwards. He recovered in time for Summer Slam 91 and claimed the poison had only made him stronger.
    • Endured a curse from Papa Shango that caused him to start spontaneously bleeding from his chest, hands, and face.
    • Humiliated Andre the Giant in a match that lasted less than a minute.
    • Pinned Triple H in one minute, forty seconds.
    • Narrowly defeated the Undertaker in a casket match. Here's a link to The Undertaker's RT.
    • Is one of 5 people to have ever gotten a clean pin on Hulk Hogan, which was one of the only 26 losses taken by Hulk throughout his entire career.
      

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      Other abilities:
    • Teleports in, then back out of a ring surrounded by a steel cage.
    • More teleportation, this time teleporting a group of nWo members into the ring to replace him.
    • Vanishes out of a room Hogan saw him walk into, then makes himself appear in a mirror to taunt him.

These are all of the feats from The Ultimate Warrior that need to be taken into consideration.

Here are all of the feats for Ultimate Warrior.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So uh, anyone gonna help make these profiles?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I will say that if we're going to make a Dolph Ziggler profile, he will definitely have one of the best Pain Tolerances/Instinctive Reactions in the verse. He's quite notorious for being resilient.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

John Cena AA's Bray Wyatt through...a suitcase? Luggage? I don't know what it is lol.

Obviously the material is wack, but we already talked about what WWE does to protect their wrestlers.