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Possibly Controversial High 3-A Upgrade for MCU Scarlet Witch

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She destroyed the Darkholds using a hax, which I don’t think was mentioned here. So it would be impossible to scale Stephen or Ancient One to her blasts.
omg im too slow for this 😭

okay so like yeah wouldnt that just be high 3-A for her fire manipulation hax rather than her own magic bc theyre saying that her magic would be high 3-A for destroying the darkhold
 
omg im too slow for this 😭

okay so like yeah wouldnt that just be high 3-A for her fire manipulation hax rather than her own magic bc theyre saying that her magic would be high 3-A for destroying the darkhold
I mean it already is listed on her profile that she can’t scale to High 3-A with that hax..

”Wanda cannot be scaled to High 3-A, since she used a hax rather than her own raw magic power to destroy every Darkhold in the Multiverse.”

This CRT makes no sense to me. It was already agreed upon that her Magic was unscalable to her erasure of the Darkholds.
 
I mean it already is listed on her profile that she can’t scale to High 3-A with that hax..

”Wanda cannot be scaled to High 3-A, since she used a hax rather than her own raw magic power to destroy every Darkhold in the Multiverse.”

This CRT makes no sense to me. It was already agreed upon that her Magic was unscalable to her erasure of the Darkholds.
uhh i think that was from when she had existence erasure back then and she couldnt scale to that for erasing it which was why that was listed there

but like her EE got removed and her destroying the darkhold got changed to her using fire manipulation for that so OP considered her having high 3-A via fire manipulation

at first when i applied my previous crt to her profile i didnt do anything to that note bc i assumed that it was still hax regardless so her using fire manipulation to destroy the darkhold wouldnt make much of a difference but like ppl here seem to be fine with it so ig apparently she could scale to that via fire manipulation??
 
uhh i think that was from when she had existence erasure back then and she couldnt scale to that for erasing it which was why that was listed there

but like her EE got removed and her destroying the darkhold got changed to her using fire manipulation for that so OP considered her having high 3-A via fire manipulation

at first when i applied my previous crt to her profile i didnt do anything to that note bc i assumed that it was still hax regardless so her using fire manipulation to destroy the darkhold wouldnt make much of a difference but like ppl here seem to be fine with it so ig apparently she could scale to that via fire manipulation??
Well yeah I agree with you..I don’t get how this isn’t still a hax by all means. The OP isn’t even clear 😭
 
I really don't know how to apply a feat like this honestly. Whatever the other staff and knowledgeable members decide on, I'm not going to argue. It's a weird feat to scale in my opinion.
 
I really don't know how to apply a feat like this honestly. Whatever the other staff and knowledgeable members decide on, I'm not going to argue. It's a weird feat to scale in my opinion.
For her to burn every darkhold, she would still need infinite energy, although she would still need a darkhold to successfully destroy the darkhold, so there are 3 options for her: 1: with fire manipulation
2: with magic
3: with darkhold
 
Yeah with darkhold seems good to me but whoever used it should scale it or no idk about that whatever
 
Yeah with darkhold seems good to me but whoever used it should scale it or no idk about that whatever
well that would only work if she’s directly using a darkhold spell or the book itself to destroy the darkholds, but the darkhold seems to be an amp and her being able to reach other universes is due to that since she wasnt able to do any powerful spells without it so we could just do something like

at least 6-A with magic, up to High 3-A at peak (As she possesses the Darkhold, her chaos magic is greatly augmented, allowing her to cast spells across the Multiverse. Destroyed the Darkhold in every Universe all at once, burning each of them to ashes)

isnt that also what the OP had in the thread before they edited it to give her high 3-A via fire hax?
 
We could have something like High 3-A with The Darkhold (The Darkhold significantly amplifies its wielder, enabling the release of energy sufficient to destroy infinite copies of itself across the multiverse)
 
also scaling ppl who used the darkhold to High 3-A would be a problem bc strange beat his variant who used the darkhold
 
If given the option to not scale against her, I'd choose at peak and write in AP that her powers are best displayed based on her mood. She destroys the entire darkhold to atone for her crimes. Burning it all at once at the end
 
yeah unnecessary scaling for other characters. The choice at peak doesn't look too bad. So we will have to wait for their opinion
 
i am disagree wanda h 3a

Wanda cannot used her power to destroy every Darkhold in the Multiverse
She destroying Mt Wundagore in one universe destroy all the Darkholds in every universe

You will need to find proof that there is only 1 Wundagore in the infinite multivese. Your scan doesn't even indicate that there is only 1 Wundagore, and I have the scan for you to prove that Wundagore is not the only one as you say
1: Deadpool 3
2: Commentary with director Sam Raimi, writer Michael Waldron and producer Richie Palmer
So you need to find a scan that clearly states that there was only one Wundagore and that she destroyed Wundagore and the darkhold along with it.
 
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I've edited the content and provided some statements and evidence in support of her having the key at peak H3-A
 
You will need to find proof that there is only 1 Wundagore in the infinite multivese. Your scan doesn't even indicate that there is only 1 Wundagore, and I have the scan for you to prove that Wundagore is not the only one as you say
1: Deadpool 3
2: Commentary with director Sam Raimi, writer Michael Waldron and producer Richie Palmer
So you need to find a scan that clearly states that there was only one Wundagore and that she destroyed Wundagore and the darkhold along with it.
Wanda cannot used her power to destroy every Darkhold in the Multiverse
She destroying Mt Wundagore in one universe destroy all the Darkholds in every universe

Evidence from Ofc timeline marvel , So Wanda shouldn't
Can be scaled to High 3-A.
 
Wanda cannot used her power to destroy every Darkhold in the Multiverse
She destroying Mt Wundagore in one universe destroy all the Darkholds in every universe

Evidence from Ofc timeline marvel , So Wanda shouldn't
Can be scaled to High 3-A.
Your scans only mention that she destroys Wundagore and lets it fall on her, ending both threats of the multiverse. There is no mention of a single Wundagore or darkhold Every universe is connected to Wundagore in Universe 616 All you have to do now is find a new scan that Wundagore has a single place and it is connected to every darkhold in another universe
 
Wanda cannot used her power to destroy every Darkhold in the Multiverse
She destroying Mt Wundagore in one universe destroy all the Darkholds in every universe

Evidence from Ofc timeline marvel , So Wanda shouldn't
Can be scaled to High 3-A.
That’s not true. Castle Darkhold doesn’t exist in just one universe—it exists in every universe. We can see this in Deadpool 3, which shows Castle Darkhold existing in other universes. It’s true that on Earth-616, Castle Darkhold is the sole origin of the Darkhold, but that doesn’t mean other universes don’t have their own Castle Darkhold. And Wanda used her powers with the Darkhold to send out energy and destroy every Darkhold across all Multiverse.
 
Wanda cannot used her power to destroy every Darkhold in the Multiverse
She destroying Mt Wundagore in one universe destroy all the Darkholds in every universe

Evidence from Ofc timeline marvel , So Wanda shouldn't
Can be scaled to High 3-A.
You’re just typing the same thing over and over without providing any actual facts. The sources you cited don’t even explain why destroying Castle Darkhold would lead to the destruction of every Darkhold across the multiverse. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness clearly showed how Wanda sent her power to destroy the Darkholds, and it’s pretty obvious what form that took.
 
As a note, here's how the recent book Marvel Studios 100 Objects: Iconic Artifacts from the MCU describes it:
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The Darkhold is also described in the book as a repository of Chaos Magic that enables practitioners to access energy from other dimensions:
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At this point, we still can't come to a conclusion whether her H3-A key must be used with fire manipulation or at peak. If it's at peak, there won't be any scaling problems with other characters and fire manipulation as well. But the owner CRT supports being at peak with their information
 
At this point, we still can't come to a conclusion whether her H3-A key must be used with fire manipulation or at peak. If it's at peak, there won't be any scaling problems with other characters and fire manipulation as well. But the owner CRT supports being at peak with their information
Anyway, Marvel Specifically Used The Term "Destroy" Not "Erase." So, Based on Both The Interviews And What Was Shown In The Movie, This Should Count As Her AP, Not Just A Hax.
 
Not gonna vote but I'm not too fond of giving Scarlet Witch High 3-A power when she in canon has never shown that power otherwise, especially in combat.
 
Not gonna vote but I'm not too fond of giving Scarlet Witch High 3-A power when she in canon has never shown that power otherwise, especially in combat.
That's right she doesn't get with power key, but rather at peak or fire manipulation to prevent scaling from other characters and she uses all her power to destroy every darkhold, so that's why it should be at peak
 
She still remains inconsistent whether we use “With Fire Manip” or “At peak”. Making her AP at peak High 3-A would still have an impact on Strange, I doubt her peak came in the last 20 minutes of the movie.
 
She still remains inconsistent whether we use “With Fire Manip” or “At peak”. Making her AP at peak High 3-A would still have an impact on Strange, I doubt her peak came in the last 20 minutes of the movie.
We rarely see her use her powers to their full potential, other than destroying every darkhold. Most of her attacks start with round hex bolts, so in battles she doesn't use her full powers in fighting
 
We rarely see her use her powers to their full potential, other than destroying every darkhold. Most of her attacks start with round hex bolts, so in battles she doesn't use her full powers in fighting
She was bloodlusted so..I doubt that.
 
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