Possible MCU Downgrades

[Ricsi-viragosi]

might have been different missiles, because the one they bombed a planet with got way bigger explosions

That or she just destroyed them before they could detonate. Stuff that powerfull by all means should have some pretty complicated procedure, and the missiles do seem kinda high-tech.

But the result is the same, she wouldn't scale to those... unless the ships are shown tanking stuff like that.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Was a calc ever done for the missles she's shown flying through?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

BecauseScience made a video about it and he calced the energy to be 54 billions of joules.
What you guys think?

He assumes "power a continent" as the energy output of a snap, which is just... no.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Really?

How much is 54 Billions Js in terms of Tons?

12.906309751434 tons of tnt. That's tier 8.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Was a calc ever done for the missles she's shown flying through?

Yes.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

12,906309751434 Tons of TNT

 

[Drite77]

=(

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Those are't the explosions she flies through/tanks though? The explosions shes exposed to seem notably smaller possibly due to being a different model or the fact she blast them before flying through. Either way she's not tankning the explosion in that scene unless im missing something (Further she flies through after the explosions have detonated....So she should only get a fraction of the overall energy unless Im mistaken)

 

[Newendigo]

Tier 8 Thanos then.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Those are't the explosions she flies through/tanks though? The explosions shes exposed to seem notably smaller possibly due to being a different model or the fact she blast them before flying through. Either way she's not tankning the explosion in that scene unless im missing something

The missiles are the same. Stated so, and shown to look exactly the same (1:41:10).

I've got the scans, will post in a sec.

 

[Revan_Laha]

Okay. How much to light up an entire continent?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

So Im guessing them looking far smaller is due to her blasting them out of the air? OR just common Hollywood inconsistency

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Okay. How much to light up an entire continent?

To light up a continent, not that much. I don't remember the formula for light calcs tough... Percy Jackson had one, will go back to look at it if needed.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Nearly lighting a planet barely reachs into tier eight iirc luminosity calcs are really weak afaik

 

[Newendigo]

I recall Key Issues making his own calc with higher results.

But, he assumes with "Light up" it means "Blow up". I assume that's not getting accepted.

 

[Drite77]

Just a FYI, lighting the entire planet is like, 7-B+, so an entire continent is not that great

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The first missile


She yeets it back at the others


It explodes (on it's own)...


...which causes a chain reaction, making them all explode (and it's not one explosion. They all, individually detonate)

So... yeah, no. The explosions are the missiles detonating, and they are not even close to a hundred meters wide.
Edit: This happens at 1:41:00 of the movie.

 

[Revan_Laha]

There was a High 6-C Power Rangers calc for illuminating half of the world

 

[Drite77]

There was a High 6-C Power Rangers calc for illuminating half of the world

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Really? Damn, guess I underestimated light calcs my bad!

Mind linking it?

 

[Drite77]

I did that calc BTW, do you want me to link it? I problaby need to update it

 

[Newendigo]

With half of... What world? Planet or Universe?

Guess what is left is Iron Man's 6-C feat and Larson destroying the Sanctuary II (Which can't still find the calc).

Just to be clear, are we done with Thor's City bust feat? Or are we going back at that topic again.....?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Theres nothing to go back to there, thor could only vape the city with the heated core of vibranium, he can't scale to it. The only thing we could scale to is him cracking it which we never see him do so theres no calc to be made. No numbers we can put to it. The cast can't scale to thor busting the city.

Right now we're focusing on if the 6c ratings are accurate then we can come back to finding proper scaling for the cast.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I did that calc BTW, do you want me to link it? I problaby need to update it

That would be helpful, though you should also link the updated calc when you get around to it/if you need to update it.

Got nija'd a bit by your earlier replies, so it reaches 7b for an entire planet? I can't imagine lighting a contient will get much...

 

[Newendigo]

Pen@Yes but what Tier we are going to put him at? There is a 7-C calc made by Shadow, a High 7-C one made by Dino/Ricsi, and a 7-B statement.

If we are still undecided, then we need to go back.

 

[Revan_Laha]

I still don't get how is the Low 6-B calc flawed

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I feel that should be discussed after we've finished talking about the 6c ratings, I just feel it would be best to get through this portion of discussion before doubling back to find their new rating.

 

[Revan_Laha]

I did that calc BTW, do you want me to link it? I problaby need to update it

Thst luminosity calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...r_Rangers:_Go_Go_MFTL_Rangers?comments_page=1

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Ummm that calc is for speed and further it was never accepted.... He even states he did a rough calc and got those numbers at the end, likely with a method we don't accept or he made a mistake in the calc.

 

[Drite77]

I did that calc BTW, do you want me to link it? I problaby need to update it

Thst luminosity calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...r_Rangers:_Go_Go_MFTL_Rangers?comments_page=1

That is not luminosity

 

[Revan_Laha]

Most of the neutron star feat calc on the net range from High 6-C to Low 6-B

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

The problem is the star is far to old to reliably hold the temperture used in that calc, its over 6500 years old just based off thors hammer, and since the star had to form, have a forge built around it, it's likely far older still.

(Plus some other issues such as how powerful the beam he's hit with is, the nuetron stars odd behaviors ect)

 

[Drite77]

So iluminating the full planet is aroun 95 Megatons (7-B+) if it was done in one second

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

(Ha so I wasn't to far off) So illuminating and entire contient won't yeild much...

 

[Drite77]

It also needs to take into account wich continent it was

 

[Drite77]

Calc for anyone who wants to check

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Well considering the entire continent isn't lit up from what I see (Just a few large areas) and its lit up over a few seconds I highly doubt the feats worth noting....

 

[Newendigo]

Another 6-C calc from the depths of hell.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Well this question was never answered on that calc...

But the entirety of Asgard was not completely shrouded in thunderstorm, if I'm seeing it correctly. This calc is meant for when the entire area is covered in the clouds, right? Because when Thor jumps off the ledge, he has been seen causing that thunderstorm across the bridge and other areas but not at the far background with more of the city/village:

Basically the calc assumes one massive storm that covers all of asgard, thats not what happens.

 

[Newendigo]

Sooooo what we do now? All the previous calcs, from the Neutron Star, to the Kree Missiles, the Infinty Gauntlet's energy out, Iron Man tanking the meteor, and this one seems to be complety unusable from a number of reasons.

The only one that stand is Thanos crushing the Tesseract, and that is treated as an outlier.

What we achieved so far?