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So, I've been kinda going through the Jak series, and I think there's some interesting stuff here.
https://www.deviantart.com/jjsliderman/journal/Possible-Jak-and-Daxter-Buffs-790647313
There's a few things in here so I'll just go through them one at a time.
1. Jak and Daxter scaling off the Precursors.
It's established numerous times in the Jak and Daxter canon that the Precursors are the ones who created Jak's world, as well as many other worlds across the universe. Granted, how they did it isn't explained, but it's likely due to either their own powers, or some Precursor technology. This is interesting, seeing as the Precursors are scared of the Dark Makers, who are capable of twisting worlds, reshaping them, and according to Cyber-Errol, outright destroying them with ease, and have done it numerous times. Daxter refers to the Dark Maker Terraformers as things that could "finish the planet" if they ever woke up. And yet Jak is capable of destroying the Terraformer, the second most-powerful piece of Dark Maker technology, with his weapons, which could arguably scale him to the Dark Makers. There's also the fact that Daxter himself is a Precursor, and while he might not be comparable to the Precursors in Jak 3, his Dark Form likely puts him on an even footing, and Dark/Light Jak should be comparable. The Dark Maker terraformer itself is the size of a pyramid and crashes into the planet with the speed of a meteorite, which seems to generate about City Level KE, and yet the machine is undamaged. Jak is able to damage and destroy it with 5 shots of his gun, albeit in its weakspot.
2. The Precursor Stone
In Jak 2, the Precursor Stone is a sacred relic held in Mar's Tomb, which is stated by both Samos and Vin (two of the smartest/wisest people in the Jak universe), to hold the power to destroy the world and end all life should it be cracked open. Granted, the ending shows Young Jak touching the stone and awakening the Precursor within without repurcussions, but that's because he was blessed with the pure light and didn't crack open the stone. Which is neat, seeing as the second boss fight with Baron Praxis has him use the Precursor Stone as a weapon against you, and Jak still defeats it. Granted, this is probably the weakest of these, seeing as Jak needed to use the Baron's bombs against him in order to win and never gets hit by Precursor Stone energy, but he can take hits from the Baron's machine guns after the machine has been infused with Precursor Stone energy, so I figured I'd mention it here.
3. The Eco Core
In Lost Frontier, there's a device called the Eco Core, which contains all the Eco of Jak's world. According to Samos, Eco is the life energy of Jak's world, what the Precursors used to contain it, and what causes it to remain stable. The Eco Core in Lost Frontier is particularly significant, as it was the main eco core in the center of the world (and by center I mean on the surface, not center center), and allowed the eco balance of the world to be restored simply by restoring it. This is important because Duke Skyheed, the main antagonist, was using his Behemoth ship to absorb the eco to power up his own ship. And while Jak was unable to destroy the Behemoth itself, he was capable of destroying its anti-air defenses and the crystals absorbing the eco, while Phoenix's ship, the Phantom Blade, was capable of bringing down the Behemoth's shields created by the eco energy. Dark and Light Jak are likely comparable to the Phantom Blade in power, they just weren't in the game because of the eco shortage.
Also, a minor thing, but one of the missions in Lost Frontier (Stop the Behemoth) has the Behemoth about to destroy the town of Far Drop with this eco laser powered by a dark eco crystal, and Jak is able to destroy said crystal containing the eco energy.
4. The Dark Eco Silo
Kinda questionable, but in the first game the Dark Eco silo was created to contain all the world's Dark Eco, which Samos describes as being able to twist and destroy everything it touches, recreating the world according to Gol (the Dark Eco Sage), etc. The Precursor Robot was constructed specifically to be powerful enough to crack open the Dark Eco silo which had withstood the power of that Dark Eco for generations. I say this is questionable because it might be due to the nature of Precursor Metal itself acting as a anti-Dark Eco thing, but I don't think they ever say that. Chalk this up as a maybe.
In terms of speed stuff, there's the segment near the end of the 3rd game where Jak travels to the core of the planet in about 80 seconds in-game time in the Eco Rider, and is able to react to obstacles while doing so, which puts his reaction speed at about Massively Hypersonic. Daxter reacts to stuff while riding a missile twice in Jak 3 (breaking the first barrier to Freedom HQ), although maybe that's not really an upgrade. Finally, in the Escort Men through Sewers mission in Jak 2, Jak is capable of jumping over and dodging these beams from Metal Heads which may or may not be lasers. They're probably not, but they travel in a straight line so I figured it was worth mentioning.
And um...I guess that's it. I guess now I'll just sit back and see what happens.
https://www.deviantart.com/jjsliderman/journal/Possible-Jak-and-Daxter-Buffs-790647313
There's a few things in here so I'll just go through them one at a time.
1. Jak and Daxter scaling off the Precursors.
It's established numerous times in the Jak and Daxter canon that the Precursors are the ones who created Jak's world, as well as many other worlds across the universe. Granted, how they did it isn't explained, but it's likely due to either their own powers, or some Precursor technology. This is interesting, seeing as the Precursors are scared of the Dark Makers, who are capable of twisting worlds, reshaping them, and according to Cyber-Errol, outright destroying them with ease, and have done it numerous times. Daxter refers to the Dark Maker Terraformers as things that could "finish the planet" if they ever woke up. And yet Jak is capable of destroying the Terraformer, the second most-powerful piece of Dark Maker technology, with his weapons, which could arguably scale him to the Dark Makers. There's also the fact that Daxter himself is a Precursor, and while he might not be comparable to the Precursors in Jak 3, his Dark Form likely puts him on an even footing, and Dark/Light Jak should be comparable. The Dark Maker terraformer itself is the size of a pyramid and crashes into the planet with the speed of a meteorite, which seems to generate about City Level KE, and yet the machine is undamaged. Jak is able to damage and destroy it with 5 shots of his gun, albeit in its weakspot.
2. The Precursor Stone
In Jak 2, the Precursor Stone is a sacred relic held in Mar's Tomb, which is stated by both Samos and Vin (two of the smartest/wisest people in the Jak universe), to hold the power to destroy the world and end all life should it be cracked open. Granted, the ending shows Young Jak touching the stone and awakening the Precursor within without repurcussions, but that's because he was blessed with the pure light and didn't crack open the stone. Which is neat, seeing as the second boss fight with Baron Praxis has him use the Precursor Stone as a weapon against you, and Jak still defeats it. Granted, this is probably the weakest of these, seeing as Jak needed to use the Baron's bombs against him in order to win and never gets hit by Precursor Stone energy, but he can take hits from the Baron's machine guns after the machine has been infused with Precursor Stone energy, so I figured I'd mention it here.
3. The Eco Core
In Lost Frontier, there's a device called the Eco Core, which contains all the Eco of Jak's world. According to Samos, Eco is the life energy of Jak's world, what the Precursors used to contain it, and what causes it to remain stable. The Eco Core in Lost Frontier is particularly significant, as it was the main eco core in the center of the world (and by center I mean on the surface, not center center), and allowed the eco balance of the world to be restored simply by restoring it. This is important because Duke Skyheed, the main antagonist, was using his Behemoth ship to absorb the eco to power up his own ship. And while Jak was unable to destroy the Behemoth itself, he was capable of destroying its anti-air defenses and the crystals absorbing the eco, while Phoenix's ship, the Phantom Blade, was capable of bringing down the Behemoth's shields created by the eco energy. Dark and Light Jak are likely comparable to the Phantom Blade in power, they just weren't in the game because of the eco shortage.
Also, a minor thing, but one of the missions in Lost Frontier (Stop the Behemoth) has the Behemoth about to destroy the town of Far Drop with this eco laser powered by a dark eco crystal, and Jak is able to destroy said crystal containing the eco energy.
4. The Dark Eco Silo
Kinda questionable, but in the first game the Dark Eco silo was created to contain all the world's Dark Eco, which Samos describes as being able to twist and destroy everything it touches, recreating the world according to Gol (the Dark Eco Sage), etc. The Precursor Robot was constructed specifically to be powerful enough to crack open the Dark Eco silo which had withstood the power of that Dark Eco for generations. I say this is questionable because it might be due to the nature of Precursor Metal itself acting as a anti-Dark Eco thing, but I don't think they ever say that. Chalk this up as a maybe.
In terms of speed stuff, there's the segment near the end of the 3rd game where Jak travels to the core of the planet in about 80 seconds in-game time in the Eco Rider, and is able to react to obstacles while doing so, which puts his reaction speed at about Massively Hypersonic. Daxter reacts to stuff while riding a missile twice in Jak 3 (breaking the first barrier to Freedom HQ), although maybe that's not really an upgrade. Finally, in the Escort Men through Sewers mission in Jak 2, Jak is capable of jumping over and dodging these beams from Metal Heads which may or may not be lasers. They're probably not, but they travel in a straight line so I figured it was worth mentioning.
And um...I guess that's it. I guess now I'll just sit back and see what happens.
