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Tried this awhile ago, but I figured I’d give it another go after thinking about it a little bit.
There are arguments that can get Jak and Daxter to planet level on a highball.
1: Precursor Stone
In Jak 2, it was established by numerous sources (namely Samos, who had a great attunement with the planet after gaining the life seed (1:14:48), and Vin, who had studied Precursor technology (1:21:07)), that the Precursor Stone was capable of destroying the world, and ending all life, if it was cracked open. And while Precursors were revealed to just be ottsels in Jak 3, they still possessed the capacity to create entire planets with their technology, and their dark counterparts, the dark makers, could destroy entire planets with their technology, based on the plot of Jak 3.
In terms of the Stone itself, Jak defeated the Baron’s spider mech amplified by the stone (4:02), and the stone itself actually has power within it, since it could be used to destroy the Metal Head nest entrance when fueling Mar’s gun (1:29:57). The stone likely draws its power from that of a Precursor, as the stone is a Precursor Egg (1:31:00), and in Jak 3 Jak dismantles hordes of Dark Makers, which are just precursors corrupted by dark Eco (0:52). So, Jak scales to Dark Makers, who are comparable to Precursors, which can seemingly amplify the Precursor Stone to reach planetary levels. Daxter himself is also a precursor (1:37:00), and can amplify himself further with Dark Daxter, so he would probably be on par with the Jak 3 Precursors at his peak.
2: The Terraformer
When you confront Errol in the war factory, he states that the power he gains from the Dark Makers would allow him to turn the world into a rock, or a floating slag puddle, or reduce it to complete oblivion (1:17:41). This lines up with previous precursor items being capable of worldly destruction, and helps boost the chances of the Precursor Stone being planetary AP as opposed to just life-wiping.
Then, in the endgame, Jak and Daxter reach the core of the Dark Maker ship, seeing about 7+ terraformers, and Daxter notes that “if these nasty things ever wake up, the planet’s finished!” (1:37:41). He specifically noted that if the Terraformers ever woke up, the planet would be finished, not the Dark Ship. Plus, given the weapon is literally called a “Terraformer”, it would make sense for it to be the main weapon for planetary alteration. We also know from earlier in the game that Dark Makers have wiped out entire planets, as Onin stated “It would not be the first time a planet was lost to the monsters” (1:19:34). So, Dark Makers clearly have the technology to terraform and destroy entire planets.
This is relevant because in the endgame, Jak and Daxter directly fight a Terraformer, and tank an explosion that completely wiped it out, showing they can stack up to technology that can destroy planets. Even if the effort was divided between all the Terraformers we see in the Dark Ship, it would still reach Small Planet tiers of power.
2.5: Terraformer KE
The Terraformer also survived crashing into the planet at meteor speeds with no visible damage (1:39:27), which given its size would result in a hefty amount of KE. Measuring just the dimensions of its torso, the pyramid part, I got its KE to be around 641.589 kilotons of TNT, but its extra legs added on could potentially push that into the small city range. Yet Jak and Daxter destroyed parts of its body, and tanked an explosion that completely wiped the Terraformer out (1:43:27). So them scaling off the Terraformer’s KE seems feasible.
3: Speed upgrades
After breaking through the palace ruins, Jak takes the Eco Rider to the core of the planet (1:08:17), dodging obstacles as he rides through the tube, and reaches the planet’s core from its surface in about 80 seconds (2:18). This makes the Eco Rider massively hypersonic, and Jak can pilot it successfully, so he should scale to that speed in reactions, along with Daxter.
Tl;dr: Jak gets a “possibly 5-B” added to his AP and durability due to scaling off of the Precursor Stone and Dark Maker technology that are capable of destroying planets, Daxter has shown himself comparable to base Jak due to one-shotting Metal Heads, so he can get the same rating in either his base or Dark Daxter forms, and both Jak and Daxter get an MHS upgrade.
There are arguments that can get Jak and Daxter to planet level on a highball.
1: Precursor Stone
In Jak 2, it was established by numerous sources (namely Samos, who had a great attunement with the planet after gaining the life seed (1:14:48), and Vin, who had studied Precursor technology (1:21:07)), that the Precursor Stone was capable of destroying the world, and ending all life, if it was cracked open. And while Precursors were revealed to just be ottsels in Jak 3, they still possessed the capacity to create entire planets with their technology, and their dark counterparts, the dark makers, could destroy entire planets with their technology, based on the plot of Jak 3.
In terms of the Stone itself, Jak defeated the Baron’s spider mech amplified by the stone (4:02), and the stone itself actually has power within it, since it could be used to destroy the Metal Head nest entrance when fueling Mar’s gun (1:29:57). The stone likely draws its power from that of a Precursor, as the stone is a Precursor Egg (1:31:00), and in Jak 3 Jak dismantles hordes of Dark Makers, which are just precursors corrupted by dark Eco (0:52). So, Jak scales to Dark Makers, who are comparable to Precursors, which can seemingly amplify the Precursor Stone to reach planetary levels. Daxter himself is also a precursor (1:37:00), and can amplify himself further with Dark Daxter, so he would probably be on par with the Jak 3 Precursors at his peak.
2: The Terraformer
When you confront Errol in the war factory, he states that the power he gains from the Dark Makers would allow him to turn the world into a rock, or a floating slag puddle, or reduce it to complete oblivion (1:17:41). This lines up with previous precursor items being capable of worldly destruction, and helps boost the chances of the Precursor Stone being planetary AP as opposed to just life-wiping.
Then, in the endgame, Jak and Daxter reach the core of the Dark Maker ship, seeing about 7+ terraformers, and Daxter notes that “if these nasty things ever wake up, the planet’s finished!” (1:37:41). He specifically noted that if the Terraformers ever woke up, the planet would be finished, not the Dark Ship. Plus, given the weapon is literally called a “Terraformer”, it would make sense for it to be the main weapon for planetary alteration. We also know from earlier in the game that Dark Makers have wiped out entire planets, as Onin stated “It would not be the first time a planet was lost to the monsters” (1:19:34). So, Dark Makers clearly have the technology to terraform and destroy entire planets.
This is relevant because in the endgame, Jak and Daxter directly fight a Terraformer, and tank an explosion that completely wiped it out, showing they can stack up to technology that can destroy planets. Even if the effort was divided between all the Terraformers we see in the Dark Ship, it would still reach Small Planet tiers of power.
2.5: Terraformer KE
The Terraformer also survived crashing into the planet at meteor speeds with no visible damage (1:39:27), which given its size would result in a hefty amount of KE. Measuring just the dimensions of its torso, the pyramid part, I got its KE to be around 641.589 kilotons of TNT, but its extra legs added on could potentially push that into the small city range. Yet Jak and Daxter destroyed parts of its body, and tanked an explosion that completely wiped the Terraformer out (1:43:27). So them scaling off the Terraformer’s KE seems feasible.
3: Speed upgrades
After breaking through the palace ruins, Jak takes the Eco Rider to the core of the planet (1:08:17), dodging obstacles as he rides through the tube, and reaches the planet’s core from its surface in about 80 seconds (2:18). This makes the Eco Rider massively hypersonic, and Jak can pilot it successfully, so he should scale to that speed in reactions, along with Daxter.
Tl;dr: Jak gets a “possibly 5-B” added to his AP and durability due to scaling off of the Precursor Stone and Dark Maker technology that are capable of destroying planets, Daxter has shown himself comparable to base Jak due to one-shotting Metal Heads, so he can get the same rating in either his base or Dark Daxter forms, and both Jak and Daxter get an MHS upgrade.
