Possible Anos Voldigoad profile revisions - Maou Gakuin

[imZer0Null]

Also, what about this Null?

As far as I'm aware, Anos' source being the concept of chaos was only a theory, and the basis of the entire theory was kinda incorrect, so it really puts in to question if the theory might also be incorrect.
If it is both redundant and possibly incorrect, then I do not think it should be listed.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Ah, fair

 

[Antvasima]

So should we apply what has been accepted here?

 

[Dereck03]

I'd like to hear @Everything12's latest opinion on this.... Since it seems that there are not many staffs who are knowledgeable about AE.

The scans I provided show that characters who live on after death/destruction using Venejiara are literal possibilities. I do not want to be persistent on the AE1, but at the very least, they should have some kind of incorporeal existence, as they are clearly not physical existences or even visible to the normal eye

Because Null is right in the part that characters like Celis lived 2000 years only as a possibility and also Graham became possibilities. And even both were imperceptible to all the characters, and even Anos to be able to see or perceive them needed to use his Magic Eye since they were only possibilities.

 

[Bernkastelll]

It do sound like AE type 1 to me, damn, I should re-read Maou Gakuin, my memory is really bad in these minor details that are important

 

[Verrel966]

For summoning feats, Anos can also summon Arcana.



　俺は選定の盟珠を取り出し、そこに魔力を込めた。

　盟珠の中に魔法陣が現れ、それがみるみる積層されていく。


「＜神座天門選定召喚グアラ・ナーテ・フォルテオス＞」


　召喚の光を伴い、その場に白銀の髪の少女、選定神アルカナが姿を現した。



I took out a selection of Confederation beads and put magic power into them.

　

　A magic circle appeared inside the bead, and it began to layer up.



"Guara Nate Forteos", summoned by selection of the Celestial Gate."



Accompanied by the light of the summoning, a girl with silvery-white hair, the God of Selection, Arcana, appeared on the spot.

Anos summons Arcana

 

[Antvasima]

@Everything12

Can you check through this please?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/possible-anos-voldigoad-profile-revisions-maou-gakuin.121645/post-4009115

 

[Elizhaa]

It seems like Abstract Existence Type 1 could be valid via Venejiara. The page already clarified abstract existence could stem from different sources like possibilities.

• Beware that the abstract nature of different characters can stem from different sources (rumors, concepts, possibilities,...), as such, being able to affect a subtype of a category does not mean a character can affect all types of abstraction.

The others things look fine.
I will be honest Egil Grone Angdroa could be 2-B if there are more contexts from a translation but I digress.

 

[InfiniteCosmology]

The others things look fine.
I will be honest Egil Grone Angdroa could be 2-B if there are more contexts from a translation but I digress.

Could you pls look into this chapter.
English MTL.

"Even if the first world is destroyed by the offsetting power of Sergei Eldnave and the power beyond the regeneration of Artilte Lutnoa, the overlapping second world will only emerge.
　And in that moment, the destroyed first world will be recreated.

　If you can't stop my demise, you don't have to stop it, you can just create a new world.
　The world will continue to be created endlessly as I try to unleash the power to destroy hundreds or thousands of worlds.

　This is the very Garden of the Demon King that Misha created for me."

--Does this sounds 2B to you?

 

[InfiniteCosmology]

@imZer0Null I don't understand why will Anos lose imm. type 5.

 

[Dereck03]

I was wondering too, since to destroy the Anos source you have to destroy the Graham Source first, and this is NEP2 but it doesn't seem to apply Immo 5 to Anos. I mean, Graham's source still has everything that Graham possessed and it's fused with Anos source

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

The type 6 imm i think should stay

 

[Dereck03]

The type 6 imm i think should stay

Anos does not use that kind of ability to escape or overcome death, so possession is fine.

 

[Dereck03]

So, what's left to do here, @Everything12 hasn't shown up and @Elizhaa gave a good and valid argument about AE 1 which was what was left to discuss, so I think we can proceed with the changes presented in the OP without problems.

 

[Yzak]

ya

 

[InfiniteCosmology]

I was wondering too, since to destroy the Anos source you have to destroy the Graham Source first, and this is NEP2 but it doesn't seem to apply Immo 5 to Anos. I mean, Graham's source still has everything that Graham possessed and it's fused with Anos source

Yeah, Graham's source which is NEP 2 is practically inside Anos's source and is suffering hellish destruction, but having NEP 2 inside an user automatically grants imm. type 5 to that use.(as Anos scales to Graham).

 

[Dereck03]

So, what's left to do here, @Everything12 hasn't shown up and @Elizhaa gave a good and valid argument about AE 1 which was what was left to discuss, so I think we can proceed with the changes presented in the OP without problems.

^

 

[Verrel966]

I think this should also be added to Anos profile

Shapeshifting : Can change his appearance into someone else's using ＜Caeral＞

Vibration manipulation : Can generate shock waves

 

[InfiniteCosmology]

Vibration manipulation : Can generate shock waves

What was the chapter number again?

 

[Dereck03]

I think it is better to go with the improvements already presented in the OP and not continue providing more, as this is not the purpose of this thread, if you want to add or remove more skills, do it in another CRT.

 

[Verrel966]

I think it is better to go with the improvements already presented in the OP and not continue providing more, as this is not the purpose of this thread, if you want to add or remove more skills, do it in another CRT.

Sorry

 

[Verrel966]

What was the chapter number again?

Ini

 

[Dereck03]

No need to say sorry, the only reason I say that, is so that the upgrade doesn't take too long to be accepted, but if Null wants to add the skills provided then it's up to him.

 

[InfiniteCosmology]

Ini

I am planning a crt to give some new haxes to Anos and Sasha and a few other characters. Let's do it at there.

 

[imZer0Null]

I think this should also be added to Anos profile

Shapeshifting : Can change his appearance into someone else's using ＜Caeral＞

Vibration manipulation : Can generate shock waves

Shapeshifting seems fine.
It appears as if Anos created shockwaves through brute force tho, meaning it doesn't qualify as vibration manip.

From which wn chapter are both of these scans btw?

 

[imZer0Null]

It seems like everything except for AE1 is unanimously accepted.

The current votes regarding whether AE1 via Venejiara is valid:

(?) indicates votes I am unsure about.

Agree (11?): @God900, @InfiniteCosmology, @Dereck03, @Zencha9, @Shizuka, @Teezar (?), @XarxesBreak, @Bernkastelll (?), @Elizhaa (?), @AnonymousBlank, @AnosVoldigoad314

Disagree (3): @Everything12, @Delta333, @CrimsonStarFallen

Neutral (1): @Ian2296

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Agree with everything, including AE1.

 

[God900]

Me too, I agree with AE

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

I agree on the AE1 now since elizhaa explained

 

[InfiniteCosmology]

I do think Elizhaa and Bern agreed, but it would be better if they give a final answer.

 

[Teezar]

If this is true then I agree.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Ye, I agreed

 

[Antvasima]

It seems like Abstract Existence Type 1 could be valid via Venejiara. The page already clarified abstract existence could stem from different sources like possibilities.

• Beware that the abstract nature of different characters can stem from different sources (rumors, concepts, possibilities,...), as such, being able to affect a subtype of a category does not mean a character can affect all types of abstraction.

The others things look fine.
I will be honest Egil Grone Angdroa could be 2-B if there are more contexts from a translation but I digress.

@Everything12

What do you think about this?

 

[Ness21]

I accept about this.

 

[Dereck03]

@Everything12

What do you think about this?

Since @Everything12 and the 2 other people who diagree with AE have not responded, can we proceed with the OP, since @Elizhaa gave a valid argument about AE and it has already been accepted along with the entire OP.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, @Everything12 is currently present in the wiki, so I give him a final chance to respond to Elizhaa.

 

[Dereck03]

Well, @Everything12 is currently present in the wiki, so I give him a final chance to respond to Elizhaa.

Ok, let's wait then

 

[Elizhaa]

Could you pls look into this chapter.
English MTL.

--Does this sounds 2B to you?

"The world will continue to be created endlessly as I try to unleash the power to destroy hundreds or thousands of worlds." sounds 2-B, from the additional contexts here.

 

[Dereck03]

Thanks, I guess we can use 2-B then for Egil Grone Angdroa instead of Low 2-C

 

[Antvasima]

It seems like Everything12 has lost interest in this thread.

What has been accepted to be applied here then?