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Well, the Unova starters aren't on the list. The Oshawott line is already in the game, but Snivy and Tepig will have to wait...
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Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc
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Ah. My mistake.
RIP Gen 5 fans. Maybe this means a Gen 5 remake is happening during Gen 9 to trade from Gen 5 remakes to Gen 9?
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Do we consider all Ghost-type Pokemon to have intangibility? If not, do any of them have it? If so, what are the reasons they have it?
Part of the reason I want to know is there's an undead tournament, but it has an Intagibility discouraged clause; So Intangible Ghost-type Pokemon would be ineligible.
Also, would there be any hurdles to making a Gimmighoul profile?
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It's entire learnset is 2 level-up moves & a bunch of TMs. So copy-paste scaling justifications, list moves, call it a day?
Part of the reason I want to know is there's an undead tournament, but it has an Intagibility discouraged clause; So Intangible Ghost-type Pokemon would be ineligible.
Also, would there be any hurdles to making a Gimmighoul profile?
Gimmighoul (Pokémon)
It's entire learnset is 2 level-up moves & a bunch of TMs. So copy-paste scaling justifications, list moves, call it a day?
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Nope. Most don't have it.
Cursola is incorporeal. On the Sw/Sh website it's mentioned it lost its corporeal body.
Gengar line can become intangible if they want.
It's fine to use. Although Cursola's existence kinda confirms most Pokémon can indeed interact with non corporeal beings so, it's more of Pokémon being able to hit intangible being and not that Ghost Types aren't intangible
No problem
Well that's a problem.It's entire learnset is 2 level-up moves & a bunch of TMs. So copy-paste scaling justifications, list moves, call it a day?Gimmighoul (Pokémon)
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Wasn't there a recent anime episode where aura was used to interact with ghosts?
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Idk if it was aura (haven’t watched The Distant Blue Sky) but Ash did interact with a ghost
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No idea tbh
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It was most definitely aura (we literally see aura when he touches the ghost)
Also he could see the ghost who was invisible as well
Also he could see the ghost who was invisible as well
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SHOULD they have it? I'm assuming you'd say no, but I just wanna be certain.
Neat.
Problem how?
(Also, for what it's worth Gimmighoul seems to have more abilities when considering Pokedex entries & that 1 promotional video.)
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Good question. Anyone else wanna weigh in on this matter also?
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Many should have it I. Not all, just the ones which are mentioned to be souls that have fused with objects or those zombielike ones. eg. cursola, greavard, froslass, phnatump and the likes
Immunity to soul hax is valid for some Ghost Type Pokémon which are born of abstractions (Bannete is literally a doll with grudges inside, where's the soul?) plus resistance to life force absorption (eg. Greavard life force absorption didn't seem to affect the ghost type pokemon around him but the human was down for the count in less than 22 minutes)
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I mean, aura is also featured in the Pokedex entries of Riolu & Lucario, & IDK if that aura is limited by type.
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Electric Aura?
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Yup. Aura wheel
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While waiting for answers on the Intangibility/Incorporeality for Ghost-types questions:
What's a Pokemon from a Starter Evolutionary line (It doesn't have to be the final evolution!) that:
1. You want a Past or Future Paradox Form for.
2. You expect a Past or Future Form for.
3. You think DESERVES a Past or Future Paradox Form, whether you want it to have one or not.
In all cases, explain WHY you have your position on that matter, please!
For example:
I kind of want Past Paradox forms for:
1. Anything from Snivy's line, where it hasn't de-volved away its arms.
2. Maybe an alternate form of Samurott from a past where it hadn't evolved into a quadruped, so that it matches its bipedal pre-evolutions?
3. What Decidueye was like before it went extinct, & not what it was like while it was in Hisui. Maybe.
4. Incineroar where it's quadrupedal & not a wrestler. (Admittedly, it'd be hard for this to be more than just "tiger".)
For Future Forms:
1. Blastoise (Go full assault artillery amassment animal with this.)
2. Empoleon (It's already a Steel-type with bladed fins. Go further!)
& these could probably work for either kind:
1. Wartortle (It can live 10,000 years! Show us that! A Wartortle that's lived 1,000 years ago.)
2. Bayleef (It has a scent that makes other Pokemon want to fight. The other members of Bayleef's evolutionary line aren't said to do this. So what would a Bayleef that used this ability to its fullest be like, after constantly inciting fights?)
3. Delphox, as an Ancient Wizard/Witch/Mage type. (It already incorporates spellcaster motifs into its design.)
Personally, I think that a lot of the starters, especially in their final evolution, feel kinda prehistoric-looking. Anyone else think so?
What's a Pokemon from a Starter Evolutionary line (It doesn't have to be the final evolution!) that:
1. You want a Past or Future Paradox Form for.
2. You expect a Past or Future Form for.
3. You think DESERVES a Past or Future Paradox Form, whether you want it to have one or not.
In all cases, explain WHY you have your position on that matter, please!
For example:
I kind of want Past Paradox forms for:
1. Anything from Snivy's line, where it hasn't de-volved away its arms.
2. Maybe an alternate form of Samurott from a past where it hadn't evolved into a quadruped, so that it matches its bipedal pre-evolutions?
3. What Decidueye was like before it went extinct, & not what it was like while it was in Hisui. Maybe.
4. Incineroar where it's quadrupedal & not a wrestler. (Admittedly, it'd be hard for this to be more than just "tiger".)
For Future Forms:
1. Blastoise (Go full assault artillery amassment animal with this.)
2. Empoleon (It's already a Steel-type with bladed fins. Go further!)
& these could probably work for either kind:
1. Wartortle (It can live 10,000 years! Show us that! A Wartortle that's lived 1,000 years ago.)
2. Bayleef (It has a scent that makes other Pokemon want to fight. The other members of Bayleef's evolutionary line aren't said to do this. So what would a Bayleef that used this ability to its fullest be like, after constantly inciting fights?)
3. Delphox, as an Ancient Wizard/Witch/Mage type. (It already incorporates spellcaster motifs into its design.)
Personally, I think that a lot of the starters, especially in their final evolution, feel kinda prehistoric-looking. Anyone else think so?
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I haven't been keeping up with the revisions, but is there something in place preventing Scarlet/Violet profiles from being made? I thought there would be a few, but there aren't any on the verse page.
Kinda wanna work on AI Turo/Sada and Tandemaus/Maushold tbh
Kinda wanna work on AI Turo/Sada and Tandemaus/Maushold tbh
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I don't think there's anything preventing you, Tinkaton has a page already
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I should update Dunsparse's profile soon.
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A Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Bug Is Deleting Players’ Save Files
PSA: Do not connect your copy of Scarlet or Violet with other games right now
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While doing research aka wanking the **** out of Pupitar for Vs Battles purposes, it seems like Pupitar has a suprising amount of Dex Entries relating to using pressurized gas to fly.
It's pretty strange that they keep talking about it, considering that at first glance, where is Pupitar supposed to get all of these gases from and where does it eject from? Also is this some sort of limited flight? Air manipulation?
| Ruby | Pupitar creates a gas inside its body that it compresses and forcefully ejects to propel itself like a jet. The body is very durable - it avoids damage even if it hits solid steel. |
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| Emerald | A Pupitar creates a gas inside its body that it ejects under compression to propel itself like a jet. Its body can withstand a collision with solid steel. |
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| X | Its body is as hard as bedrock. By venting pressurized gas, it can launch itself like a rocket. |
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It's pretty strange that they keep talking about it, considering that at first glance, where is Pupitar supposed to get all of these gases from and where does it eject from? Also is this some sort of limited flight? Air manipulation?
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These entries are also notable for the topic:
| Ultra Sun | This troublesome Pokémon can't wait to evolve, so it relieves its stress by wildly propelling itself around using compressed gas. |
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| Scarlet | This pupa flies around wildly by venting with great force the gas pressurized inside its body. |
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The Scarlet entry, like many Pokedex entries Pokemon have, is a repeat. Specifically, from Black 2 & White 2. But still, the fact that it's explicitly stated that it "flies", albeit, "wildly", is very clarifying, I feel.
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It looks like we don't have Standards for Range on this page yet:
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We also don't link any calcs as basis for Range on the Verse Page:
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We do link many calcs, but we don't say which indicate what range.
Pokémon Profile Standards
There are currently over 1000 Pokémon, each part of the largest multimedia franchise in the entire world, spanning video games, comic books, TV shows, movies, and even trading cards. When dealing with a massive, ever-expanding verse of this magnitude, consistency is going to be vitally important...
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We also don't link any calcs as basis for Range on the Verse Page:
Pokémon
For detailed information about this series, visit Bulbapedia or the Pokémon Wiki. Pokémon is a video game franchise owned by Nintendo and developed by Game Freak that made its first release on the Game Boy and has turned into one of the most successful video-game media franchises ever made by...
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We do link many calcs, but we don't say which indicate what range.
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What do you guys think about this ? :
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I've noticed that theory a few times before, with a lot of people pointing out the land of Paldea's similarities (However vague they may or may not actually be.) to a turtle or tortoise, especially since Terapagos's reveal.
No offense meant, but: What makes you feel this theory is special?
Personally, my position is speculation alone isn't enough.
It's 1 thing to assume "Oh, it's just been dormant" or something, but you need at least a real world myth or artwork or something that gives us reason to believe GameFreak would implement something like that into their lore.
For me, there needs to be AT LEAST a basis for what they suggest, even if it's just pre-existing real world material with at least some small amount of notoriety; Otherwise, how can it be differentiated from fanfiction?
There are a lot of possibilities, but there will be only 1 truth, & it'll be from GameFreak, for better or for worse.
So I always ask why would GameFreak do X, where X is the premise of the theory being presented?
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Personally, I'm not hoping for Terapagos's True Form (It's way too cutesy to be a third Legendary given precedent, it doesn't match the book's description, & its scales are pentagonal, not hexagonal.) to be 1 that changes its own type.
If it was, that'd just be stealing Arceus's gimmick, & be very similar to what the Legend Plate does.
What I want it to do is, since it seems to be the source of energy emissions, & it has crystals growing to cover stuff in Area Zero, if it's to be a less "good" counterpart to Arceus, it should change the OPPOSITION's Tera Type.
So if it uses an attack, it forcefully Terastallizes the target into whatever type is weakest to it. This would be similar to Legends Plate, but would show its the master of the mechanic; It wouldn't just be able to Terastallize itself, but control the Terastallization of other Pokemon, too.
This would also mean, sadly, that it has less excuse to be any of Normal, Typeless (AKA ??? Type) or Dragon, since it would only be changing type via Terastallization.
But if it did change its own type, it'd probably be too similar to Legend Plate.
Still, I'll gladly take Rock/Psychic or such!
I like Rock as a type, so Rock/Dragon or such could be okay, too. But Psychic/Dragon feels like it's been done too much already.
If it was, that'd just be stealing Arceus's gimmick, & be very similar to what the Legend Plate does.
What I want it to do is, since it seems to be the source of energy emissions, & it has crystals growing to cover stuff in Area Zero, if it's to be a less "good" counterpart to Arceus, it should change the OPPOSITION's Tera Type.
So if it uses an attack, it forcefully Terastallizes the target into whatever type is weakest to it. This would be similar to Legends Plate, but would show its the master of the mechanic; It wouldn't just be able to Terastallize itself, but control the Terastallization of other Pokemon, too.
This would also mean, sadly, that it has less excuse to be any of Normal, Typeless (AKA ??? Type) or Dragon, since it would only be changing type via Terastallization.
But if it did change its own type, it'd probably be too similar to Legend Plate.
Still, I'll gladly take Rock/Psychic or such!
I like Rock as a type, so Rock/Dragon or such could be okay, too. But Psychic/Dragon feels like it's been done too much already.
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