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Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc

What they are referring to is the Pokémon Journeys two part Pallia/Dialga arc.

What happened was that a parallel version of Team Rocket got access to the Red Chain and used it to have Palkia and Dialga fight each other causing gates to parallel worlds to open with their power (with parallel Ash/Dawn/Goh/etc being shown), where the Pokémon of that world were de-evovling and reverting to eggs .
oh I thought it was the darkrai movie anyway that is just portal creation/range to my knowledge.
 
Palkia's ability to open the gates was attibtued to it's nature of presiding over dimensions (and space), with it also being the one attributed to the creation of said same dimensions (and space).

 
I remember wanting a varying tier for avatars and someone shot it donw, Kukui pretty sure.

Basically just call Kukui and ask him about it
 
I remember wanting a varying tier for avatars and someone shot it donw, Kukui pretty sure.
I mean there's nothing wrong with going with that for the CT. Arceus tho, seems to get so much respect ever since that one terrible movie I don't think he needs it
 
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Here you go.
 
It isn’t multiple multiverses and nothing mentioned that supports in the thing about the manga versions.
Is this a joke??????????????? Its mentioned several times in manga Palkia is the creator of parallel dimensions(exactly his pokedex entry in the games. Lol) and so is Dialga the creator of time. And they were wiping out of the verse in their fight. Everything was getting wiped out into nothingness

And yes there is multiple multiverses
 
I have to say there is something here which i can explain.

1. Lack of anti-feats: none of the CT have any anti-feats and reason to be Low 2-C and not 2-B. They are Avatars for a reason and if they couldn't affect the multiverse they'd be useless, especially if we talk about the 2-A part. We can see that there are many avatars but only for specific parts of the poke-multiverse, such as the anime only having the one pair of the entirety of the parallel dimensionarie.

2. The entry describing Palkia is specifically an entry about its avatar since humans can't really analyse their true forms just like the Arceus avatar that PLA protag has is stated to only be a part of arceus.
 
I could of saved sometime asking here earlier oh well. But I might actually have either an anti feat or primal dialga upgrade and that feat should be add to their profiles.
 
Primal Dia is... Weird. It is technically limited as it lost the gears of time, however the whole game contradicts canon in that regard so using Primal Dia shouldn't be an option
 
I suppose but mind if I show my logic later.
Sure, but we generally only accept things which don't contradict canon. Currently pokemon melting mountains, walking for hours through dungeons, being intelligent enough to build stuff, Darkrai surviving Palkia's punch is generally not contradicted. However stuff like Dialga losing power due to gears which exist all across the region is just wrong in relation to the mainline games, anime and manga all together
 
Alright, we currently accept several pokemon in this game as low 2-C because we have primal dialga as low 2-C because they are weakened. As seen here however grovyle defeated Azelf and before that as seen here mespirt was defeated by the player characters which grovyle one shot after the fight.
 
Alright, we currently accept several pokemon in this game as low 2-C because we have primal dialga as low 2-C because they are weakened. As seen here however grovyle defeated Azelf and before that as seen here mespirt was defeated by the player characters which grovyle one shot after the fight.
Logically that would be 2-B but at the same time it's a lot simpler to say that it's simply a big ol outlier of a game that has way too many contradictions
 
Alright, we currently accept several pokemon in this game as low 2-C because we have primal dialga as low 2-C because they are weakened. As seen here however grovyle defeated Azelf and before that as seen here mespirt was defeated by the player characters which grovyle one shot after the fight.
It's a wonky verse that has no relationship with primary canon. Which is why it has a seperate key

Primary Canon supercedes anything that contradicts it, and that goes for pmd, which is the least canon Pokémon material and most "unique"
 
So i brought up the calc about the lake bomb with CloverDragon and we've ended up getting 13 kilotons for Magikarp's durability. Once im done with the current upgrades i'll make a magikarp+baby pokemon upgrade thread
 
It's a wonky verse that has no relationship with primary canon. Which is why it has a seperate key

Primary Canon supercedes anything that contradicts it, and that goes for pmd, which is the least canon Pokémon material and most "unique"
False it is why Pokémon have I.Q skills and even then what’s the reason primal Dialga is low 2-C he is just weaker to an unknown degree but it is shown stronger than Pokémon that fought and defeated members of the lake trio who are 2-B likely 2-A
 
Logically that would be 2-B but at the same time it's a lot simpler to say that it's simply a big ol outlier of a game that has way too many contradictions
Like what Dialga being weakened to an unknown degree post game shows you comparable to Palkia, Darkrai and Cresselia and palkia is fought at the same level as primal Dialga then again he beats darkrai who was 5 levels higher with one hit but that was with spacial rend being used to mess up his trip through the wormhole after he lost a fight
 
What are you on about anyway? Like, what do you want to do?

I don't care in the slightest, but I guess I want to have an understanding of your proposal at least. For courtesy sake
 
anyways i'd like to have a word with all yall. I need help. Besides going through exams right not, i am a one-man army. I've been trying to thoroughly edit profiles, adding tabbers and abilities, adding pre-evolutions and generally cleaning up. But i ain't enough, unless you want me to finish the revisions by this winter.

What i want is the next:

1.Go through different profiles (specifically gen 3-8) and look for pokemon who lack pre-evolutions. If you see one, go get an image of the pre evolutions (one that is cropped and good to use, like the ones we have in our profiles) and upload it to the wiki under the name of the pokemon in question. If a pokemon's name is already taken then notify me.
This will make it easier for me since i won't have to go downloading and uploading images constantly to fix those profiles.

2. Go through profiles and find ones where there is a lack of moves or a link to a bulbapedia page describing all the moves.
Once you do, find their respective page and start adding the moves.
The moves that need adding are:
-level up moves
-egg moves

Additionally if they lack abilities then add them as well.

As a reference you can use my newly edited Eevee page. Make sure it follows the same structure and editing since otherwise its gonna look dumb.

3. Finally, if you have the will, please edit the starter pages for me. Gen 1-3 is done but gen 4 and beyond isn't.
Here's a reference to how it should look (ignore the moves of charizard, they need editing).

What i want is them to have the same LS, the same intelligence ratings (but with the right names edited in), the same AP and the same speed. If they've a g-max then give them the g-max ratings as well. If they've a mega then add them the mega evo stats.

The only current exception for this is Dewott, who deserves gifted intelligence, though that is all.


Please, if anyone is willing to do those things from time to time, you are going to do me good.
 
Seismic Toss, Pokémon Stadium.

"A Fighting-type attack. Throws the target with enough force to flip the world upside down."

Wtf
 
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