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oh I thought it was the darkrai movie anyway that is just portal creation/range to my knowledge.
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Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc
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Palkia's ability to open the gates was attibtued to it's nature of presiding over dimensions (and space), with it also being the one attributed to the creation of said same dimensions (and space).
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they were warping space and time across those universes
Lou_change
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Then it is just range and at best a support feat to go along side a 2-B/2-A feat as I understand.
Sniper670
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I mean there's nothing wrong with going with that for the CT. Arceus tho, seems to get so much respect ever since that one terrible movie I don't think he needs it
Lou_change
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Skimming thru I don't see a 2-B feat for avatars
Sniper670
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Did I miss something of you're totally ignoring the justification under the Ap
Lou_change
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Which is?
Sniper670
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They almost destroyed the manga multiverse
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Here you go.
Lou_change
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It isn’t multiple multiverses and nothing mentioned that supports in the thing about the manga versions.
didn’t I already respond to these images
Sniper670
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Is this a joke??????????????? Its mentioned several times in manga Palkia is the creator of parallel dimensions(exactly his pokedex entry in the games. Lol) and so is Dialga the creator of time. And they were wiping out of the verse in their fight. Everything was getting wiped out into nothingness
And yes there is multiple multiverses
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I have to say there is something here which i can explain.
1. Lack of anti-feats: none of the CT have any anti-feats and reason to be Low 2-C and not 2-B. They are Avatars for a reason and if they couldn't affect the multiverse they'd be useless, especially if we talk about the 2-A part. We can see that there are many avatars but only for specific parts of the poke-multiverse, such as the anime only having the one pair of the entirety of the parallel dimensionarie.
2. The entry describing Palkia is specifically an entry about its avatar since humans can't really analyse their true forms just like the Arceus avatar that PLA protag has is stated to only be a part of arceus.
1. Lack of anti-feats: none of the CT have any anti-feats and reason to be Low 2-C and not 2-B. They are Avatars for a reason and if they couldn't affect the multiverse they'd be useless, especially if we talk about the 2-A part. We can see that there are many avatars but only for specific parts of the poke-multiverse, such as the anime only having the one pair of the entirety of the parallel dimensionarie.
2. The entry describing Palkia is specifically an entry about its avatar since humans can't really analyse their true forms just like the Arceus avatar that PLA protag has is stated to only be a part of arceus.
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Lou_change
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I could of saved sometime asking here earlier oh well. But I might actually have either an anti feat or primal dialga upgrade and that feat should be add to their profiles.
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I suppose but mind if I show my logic later.
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Sure, but we generally only accept things which don't contradict canon. Currently pokemon melting mountains, walking for hours through dungeons, being intelligent enough to build stuff, Darkrai surviving Palkia's punch is generally not contradicted. However stuff like Dialga losing power due to gears which exist all across the region is just wrong in relation to the mainline games, anime and manga all together
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Logically that would be 2-B but at the same time it's a lot simpler to say that it's simply a big ol outlier of a game that has way too many contradictions
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It's a wonky verse that has no relationship with primary canon. Which is why it has a seperate key
Primary Canon supercedes anything that contradicts it, and that goes for pmd, which is the least canon Pokémon material and most "unique"
Lou_change
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Does primal Dialga even have a feat
Sniper670
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Infinite universe filled with a chain of ultra wormholes = solid 2A?
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Lou_change
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False it is why Pokémon have I.Q skills and even then what’s the reason primal Dialga is low 2-C he is just weaker to an unknown degree but it is shown stronger than Pokémon that fought and defeated members of the lake trio who are 2-B likely 2-A
Lou_change
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Like what Dialga being weakened to an unknown degree post game shows you comparable to Palkia, Darkrai and Cresselia and palkia is fought at the same level as primal Dialga then again he beats darkrai who was 5 levels higher with one hit but that was with spacial rend being used to mess up his trip through the wormhole after he lost a fight
Lou_change
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Right know bump grovyle and those who scale to it to 2-B likely 2-A
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fair enough tbh
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anyways i'd like to have a word with all yall. I need help. Besides going through exams right not, i am a one-man army. I've been trying to thoroughly edit profiles, adding tabbers and abilities, adding pre-evolutions and generally cleaning up. But i ain't enough, unless you want me to finish the revisions by this winter.
What i want is the next:
1.Go through different profiles (specifically gen 3-8) and look for pokemon who lack pre-evolutions. If you see one, go get an image of the pre evolutions (one that is cropped and good to use, like the ones we have in our profiles) and upload it to the wiki under the name of the pokemon in question. If a pokemon's name is already taken then notify me.
This will make it easier for me since i won't have to go downloading and uploading images constantly to fix those profiles.
2. Go through profiles and find ones where there is a lack of moves or a link to a bulbapedia page describing all the moves.
Once you do, find their respective page and start adding the moves.
The moves that need adding are:
-level up moves
-egg moves
Additionally if they lack abilities then add them as well.
As a reference you can use my newly edited Eevee page. Make sure it follows the same structure and editing since otherwise its gonna look dumb.
3. Finally, if you have the will, please edit the starter pages for me. Gen 1-3 is done but gen 4 and beyond isn't.
Here's a reference to how it should look (ignore the moves of charizard, they need editing).
What i want is them to have the same LS, the same intelligence ratings (but with the right names edited in), the same AP and the same speed. If they've a g-max then give them the g-max ratings as well. If they've a mega then add them the mega evo stats.
The only current exception for this is Dewott, who deserves gifted intelligence, though that is all.
Please, if anyone is willing to do those things from time to time, you are going to do me good.
What i want is the next:
1.Go through different profiles (specifically gen 3-8) and look for pokemon who lack pre-evolutions. If you see one, go get an image of the pre evolutions (one that is cropped and good to use, like the ones we have in our profiles) and upload it to the wiki under the name of the pokemon in question. If a pokemon's name is already taken then notify me.
This will make it easier for me since i won't have to go downloading and uploading images constantly to fix those profiles.
2. Go through profiles and find ones where there is a lack of moves or a link to a bulbapedia page describing all the moves.
Once you do, find their respective page and start adding the moves.
The moves that need adding are:
-level up moves
-egg moves
Additionally if they lack abilities then add them as well.
As a reference you can use my newly edited Eevee page. Make sure it follows the same structure and editing since otherwise its gonna look dumb.
3. Finally, if you have the will, please edit the starter pages for me. Gen 1-3 is done but gen 4 and beyond isn't.
Here's a reference to how it should look (ignore the moves of charizard, they need editing).
What i want is them to have the same LS, the same intelligence ratings (but with the right names edited in), the same AP and the same speed. If they've a g-max then give them the g-max ratings as well. If they've a mega then add them the mega evo stats.
The only current exception for this is Dewott, who deserves gifted intelligence, though that is all.
Please, if anyone is willing to do those things from time to time, you are going to do me good.
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Ok, just make sure not to overdo it, just add in the starters for now
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Alright. No p
