Pokemon Discussion Thread III

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

In that case, I agree the high end could probably be used.

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

@Saikou. The calc creator said that the high end would be an outlier, despite the high end being more likely (I think), so the low end was used. So it went from tens of exatons to low gigatons.

But since other Pokemon are now around that level of power (roughly), Jirachi can keep it's 72 Exaton rating, right?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP EDITING THE MAGNEMITE PAGE IM TRYING TO WORK

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

Who is editing it?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

People don't read sometimes, Weekly. Remember that. -_-

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Prom, Aiden, Crop...

I know...i jus wanna fiz it im making special descriptions ;-;

 

[FanofRPGs]

Here are the ideas I actually had for a remake of D/P (It will never happen, Nintendo is not smart)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wVgKTexVp0hrRUPKNfCTC0LMwdMPCKrg8SwJ_JYK2DA/edit?usp=sharing

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

...Could moves like Aurora Beam or Blizzard be calced in anyway?

I mean, Earth Power was calced, so I would assume these two might be possible.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

@Weekly: If you put it in caps to emphasize your words to tell others not to edit, maybe they'd understand...

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

@Gimmy Depends. Earth Power was calc'd because the descrption. I think moves like Blizzard, Fire Blast, Hurricane etc seem like solid 9-A feats though.

 

[FanofRPGs]

Sceptile knows Earthquake, can that be counted as a feat?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I found a Volt to Joules calculator http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/electric/Volt_to_Joule_Calculator.htm if it's usable

 

[WeeklyBattles]

And done

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I found some good feats for Swampert, they should be able to scale to Sceptile.

Gen VI
X Its arms are hard as rock. With one swing, it can break a boulder into pieces. Y It can swim while towing a large ship. It bashes down foes with a swing of its thick arms. Omega Ruby Swampert is very strong. It has enough power to easily drag a boulder weighing more than a to. This Pokémon also has powerful vision that lets it see even in murky water.

 

[FanofRPGs]

I found some good feats for Swampert, they should be able to scale to Sceptile.

Gen VI
X Its arms are hard as rock. With one swing, it can break a boulder into pieces. Y It can swim while towing a large ship. It bashes down foes with a swing of its thick arms. Omega Ruby Swampert is very strong. It has enough power to easily drag a boulder weighing more than a to. This Pokémon also has powerful vision that lets it see even in murky water.

These are 8-B level feats, right?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Pulverization for a 1 ton boulder. Maybe.

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

Conkledurr can casually spin around concrete pillars


Also, it just occured to me that Snorlax's Z Move will probably get a calc in the near future.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Jirachi's high end could most certainly be used. We have numerous tier 5 pokemon, now.

Jirachi's only other major feat is Country level, and that's simply from the result of a single wish made by a person, not Jirachi really trying to do anything.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Making the Jirachi profile as we speak.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

On Jirachi's profile it should be noted that its wish granting isnt really just limited to teleportation since its likely that in the movie it just got lazy and decided to just teleport stuff like Max's candy, instead of bothering to put in any actual energy into creating them itself. And it makes sense since Jirachi did this literally seconds after waking up from its 1000 year nap so its not expected of Jirachi to be at full effort.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Finished with Jirachi, guys.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Hmm shouldn't we add raichu and aloan raichu to Pika's page? or should we just create a different page for them?

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Also finished Flygon. Who should I make next?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, how does this sound? Darkanine helped with it a lot.

"Due to the vast inconsistencies of the series, Pokemon scaling should be heavily limited, and the only Pokemon that should be created are the ones with feats. However, there are some exceptions. Pokemon with split evoultionary lines, rival pokemon (such as Zanzgoose and Seviper), starters from the same generation, and Pokemon from the same evolutionary line."

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Maybe add "Power-Scaling can however be applied to Legendary Pokemon as they are generally more consistent with feats. Regardless, standard rules apply and if scaling would lead to an outlier, it is not to be used as well" or something. At least, I think we use power-scaling for legendaries.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Unless it's Darkrai.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Unless it's Darkrai.

Darkrai's scaling is beyond ****** jfc

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Fair point. Poor Darkrai. Maybe we can scale him to Gen 4 starters?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Considering that there's some pretty good feats for Infernape and Empoleon, and legend states of a 6-A Torterra, I don't know...

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Fair point. Poor Darkrai. Maybe we can scale him to Gen 4 starters?

The problem is, no matter how we scale Darkrai, it'll be either a huge lowball or inconsistent as hell.

His speed feats range from MHS to Infinite.

His AP feats range from Town level to High Universe level.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Azzy, do you like my Jirachi page?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

and legend states of a 6-A Torterra

Wait what

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Apparently ancient people thought that the continents were giant Torterras.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Azzy, do you like my Jirachi page?

Looks good, man.

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

Torterra was believed to be the mass of land that Pokemon lived on in the days of old.


A very big Torterra, but still.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

YES one of my favs has a page now

Looks awesome. Tho I reccomend (if anyone is fine with this) that Fate/Destiny Manipulation should also be added for Jirachi via its move Doom Desire.

 

[RadicalMrR]

Cal,maybe for the Torterra page we do what we did for the Super Mutants.

Also good job with the pages I was gonna make a Feraligatr profile but I couldn't find anything out of viciously kills prey and blows shit up for the Johto starters.

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

Just a thought, but what about a Hippopotas/Hippowdon Page? Shouldn't it be around the same as Trapinch/Vibrava/Flyogn, at least in terms of AP?

I mean, sure, They don't have Earth Power, but they can still make sandstorms and use Earthquake.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Could someone calc Celebi's lake explosion? I wanna make its page soon

 

[GimmyJibbsJr]

Also, for Vibrava, it's stated that it uses "Ultrasonic" attacks like Supersonic quite often, which is sound based. So should it have an attack speed specified thanks to that?