Pizza Tower: Massive speed upgrades.

[StrymULTRA]

This shouldn't be too hard.

Every Pizza Tower character should have Massively Hypersonic+ combat speed due to Peppino being able to parry lightning with an uppercut and characters fighting against peppino in h2h at comparable speeds multiple times like The Noise, Pizzaface or Pepperman.

Because of this, every Pizza Tower character should have as speed:

" Supersonic+ Travel Speed with Massively Hypersonic+ Combat Speed and Reactions "

Peppino should also get Supersonic Attack Speed with the Pistol.

 

[Arceus0x]

Cookin' pizza

Agree

 

[Arceus0x]

Disagree with supersonic pistol. The bullets matched Vigilante so it should scale to his speed

 

[StrymULTRA]

Disagree with supersonic pistol. The bullets matched Vigilante so it should scale to his speed

I swore that Doomguy has different speeds for the weapons too, not just tiers.

But alright.

 

[Arceus0x]

I swore that Doomguy has different speeds for the weapons too, not just tiers.

But alright.

His bullets travel about as fast as he does or faster and match those of vigilante so obviously they're not just supersonic

 

[StrymULTRA]

His bullets travel about as fast as he does or faster and match those of vigilante so obviously they're not just supersonic

Yeah I figured, I was more playing in the safe route.

 

[QrowBarr]

 

[StrymULTRA]

Still can't no-hit this mf lol.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Actually, due to the 3 CRTs limit, this gonna have to be closed

 

[StrymULTRA]

Actually, due to the 3 CRTs limit, this gonna have to be closed

Why u pulling a Dread bro.

 

[The_Pink_God]

Wait, what happened exactly so that now the Lightning is considered actual lightning?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Wait, what happened exactly so that now the Lightning is considered actual lightning?

It's a cloud-to-ground one and has all the properties as one. Undertale got just upgraded to MHS+ based on this so I don't see why Pizza Tower shouldn't either.

 

[The_Pink_God]

Hmmm, well I suppose this can work then
I agree

 

[QrowBarr]

In-case I wasn't clear I also agree

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Although, I think we could get a calc that compares the Mach Run to the lightning bolt, I bet Mach 4 is faster than the lightning bolt

 

[StrymULTRA]

Although, I think we could get a calc that compares the Mach Run to the lightning bolt, I bet Mach 4 is faster than the lightning bolt

Meh, you can block it only from parrying.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Meh, you can block it only from parrying.

You can outrun it with Mach 4 tho
I'll upload da video

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

You can outrun it with Mach 4 tho
I'll upload da video

While he's definitely slower, it's probably not by much

 

[StrymULTRA]

While he's definitely slower, it's probably not by much

U can try calcing it tbf. And yeah, it seems slower.

 

[StrymULTRA]

bump

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

U can try calcing it tbf. And yeah, it seems slower.

Did it,

Pizza Tower: Peppino's travel speed

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[StrymULTRA]

Did it,

Pizza Tower: Peppino's travel speed

vsbattles.fandom.com

Massively Hypersonic+ reactions

Remove that crap from the calc. He did a whole ******* uppercut, not a small movement/dodgement.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Remove that crap from the calc. He did a whole ******* uppercut, not a small movement/dodgement.

Pretty sure we count parry abilities and similar actions as reaction speed It also helps a ton in Versus Matches and listing it as Combat Speed would make Peppino really slow compared to anyone in equal speed
But I'll remove that section if ya want

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

"Reaction speed is the speed at which a character can react to an event or action. This usually only grants a short movement upon reaction, whereas several movements at the same speed switch it to combat speed"
Plus, if Peppino's combat speed was at the same level as his reaction speed, then he would have most likely blitzed the bosses since he can parry all their attacks

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Agreed.

 

[StrymULTRA]

But I'll remove that section if ya want

Definitely, it's still up to debate.

"Reaction speed is the speed at which a character can react to an event or action. This usually only grants a short movement upon reaction, whereas several movements at the same speed switch it to combat speed"
Plus, if Peppino's combat speed was at the same level as his reaction speed, then he would have most likely blitzed the bosses since he can parry all their attacks

I wouldn't call an uppercut a short movement at all ngl.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

I wouldn't call an uppercut a short movement at all ngl.

It's still a single action tho
Like most dodges would take almost the same movement complexity as an Uppercut
Using similar examples, we have; Jotaro pointing toward someone before an MFTL+ Attack hits him, Contessa having Subsonic reactions due to deflecting a bullet, and Hank J. Wimbleton also having it for the same reason

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Also Peppino and Gus+Brick can easily react to, outrun and/or parry lightning in Gnome Forest.

 

[The_Pink_God]

Did it,

Pizza Tower: Peppino's travel speed

vsbattles.fandom.com

I guess then we just upscale Mach 3 from the Mach 2?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

I guess then we just upscale Mach 3 from the Mach 2?

Ye

 

[Arceus0x]

It's still a single action tho
Like most dodges would take almost the same movement complexity as an Uppercut
Using similar examples, we have; Jotaro pointing toward someone before an MFTL+ Attack hits him, Contessa having Subsonic reactions due to deflecting a bullet, and Hank J. Wimbleton also having it for the same reason

it's a single action but a complex one. Pointing is one hand movement meanwhile and uppercut is a spin and a punch upwards

 

[The_Pink_God]

Ye

wait actually
can't you take the amount Mach 3 moves in one frame and then use it to do the measure thing?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

it's a single action but a complex one. Pointing is one hand movement meanwhile and uppercut is a spin and a punch upwards

I doubt that changes anything, like Sonic has FTL+ reaction speed for jumping and spinning in the air, which is definitelty more complex

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

wait actually
can't you take the amount Mach 3 moves in one frame and then use it to do the measure thing?

Added a Mach 3 section

 

[The_Pink_God]

Why that's good, that's really really good

 

[StrymULTRA]

I doubt that changes anything, like Sonic has FTL+ reaction speed for jumping and spinning in the air, which is definitelty more complex

I dunno what's happening with Sonic but that definitely doesn't feel right ngl.

Maybe it has more context ngl. Besides, a punch it's still a punch, you need combat speed for that.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Besides, a punch it's still a punch, you need combat speed for that.

Not really, it's a single action that's meant to deflect normally undodgeable attacks, and a bunch of other profiles list such feats as reaction speed,
This is even shown in our calcs, where his parry speed is even superior to his Mach 2 speed,
Plus, if Peppino's combat speed was on par with his Parry speed, wouldn't he be able to consistently outmaneuver the bosses by blitzing them?
He can parry all of their attacks afterall

 

[DaMonkeMan]

It's not outmaneuvering them that's the problem, hell he can somewhat outrun Noise's pogo stick and skateboard.
He just literally can't harm them ( due to game mechanics or what ever ) until they're stunned or taunting.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Noise and Pepperman are like that, yes
But still, Fake Peppino utilizes the Mach Run against Peppino, doubt he'd use a move that makes him slower to tag Peppino

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Fake Peppino is still notably inferior in most of his techniques, to be fair, which is how Peppino won in the first place.
Also is FP's monster form at the end supposed to look like Mach 3 or am I just crazy because there's a bit of a similarity in their look.