Part 1 Naruto Revision

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Here is the second part of the Naruto revision. The previous thread can be found here.

Things to discuss

• Sasuke's Fireball jutsu (Vap or Pulv)
• Character AP Scaling
• Haku's new speed feat
• Scaling One Tailed Naruto and CM2 Sasuke to their Rasengan/Chidori clash
• Key Revision
• Part One Multipliers
• Calcs to be used

For now, I think thats all that needs to be discussed.

Sasuke's Fireball
So this is a big topic to discuss from the last thread. The main point is whether we should use Vaporization or Pulverization for Sasuke's feat from chapter 7.

Character AP Scaling
I made a Sandbox for the scaling of all of the characters from part 1. We should talk about how accurate this is and if anything needs to be changed. One thing I would appreciate some help with Choji's profile. There is a feat linked, but for some reason i can't access it.

Haku's Speed Feat
Haku has an impressive speed feat that gives MHS+ results. We can talk about how accurate the feat is and who it would scale to. I don't believe this would be an outlier which can be discussed in the thread.

Scaling One Tailed Naruto and CM2 Sasuke to their Rasengan/Chidori clash
At the end of Part one, Naruto and Sasuke have their Chidori and Rasengan clash. I believe they should scale to it since they were in the center of the explosion.

Key Revision
There was some talk about how to orginize the keys for some characters in part one. This is how i think they should look:

Key: Land of Waves/Chuunin Exam Preliminaries | Chuunin Exams/Konoha Crush | Sasuke Retrieval.

Part One Multipliers
So there are a bunch of multipliers from Part One. We have The Eight Gate Multipliers, CM (already being used), and Choji's Butterfly Mode. I think we should talk about how to implement these, if we even should.

Calcs to be used
These are all the current calcs for Part One that will be used for scaling.

• Jirobo's Shogekishou 2.3845118021033 Tons (Large Building Level)
• Sasuke's Fireball Jutsu 18.58 tons (City Block level)
• Part 1 Gaara's Sand Coffin Attack Potency 223.98 Tons (Multi-City Block level)
• Naruto stops a giant snake 3.42 Kilotons (Small Town Level+)
• Gaara's Sand Tsunami 14.902022215583173 Kilotons (Town level)

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Finally we're back in action! Great job Itachi and everyone involved, thanks for your hard work.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

This was very annoying to make since i accidentally deleted my scaling sandbox and had to do it over.

 

[BlastX]

Shouldn't Sasuke's...Sasuke Retrival key have justification, since he does get much stronger than his Konoha Crush self.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

This was very annoying to make since i accidentally deleted my scaling sandbox and had to do it over.

Yea I figured something went wrong because it took so long. Great job though.

Also Haku's feat makes sense considering he can intercept Kakashi's Raikiri on two separate occasions.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Shouldn't Sasuke's...Sasuke Retrival key have justification, since he does get much stronger than his Konoha Crush self.

What do you think it should say?

 

[BlastX]

Wait a bit, i'm gonna get my computer to write more comfortable

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I agree with the new Keys as well. Looks clean.

 

[BlastX]

Small Town Level+(Was easily overpowering Naruto during their fight and could harm him while he was boosted by Kurama's Chakra once he was able to predict his moves) Higher with CSM1

How is that?

 

[Damage3245]

> Attack Potency: Small Town level+ (He is one of the strongest participants in the Chuunin Exams, and can defeat jounin, higher with Partial Transformation (Stronger than CS1 Sasuke)

Which Jonin did Gaara defeat?

When was Gaara compared to CS1 Sasuke?

 

[Kidkinsey]

Konoha crush sasuke sasuke is high hypersonic, using the x10 CM2 multiplier he should be mhs and naturally 1 tailed naruto would scale And sasukes final valley base is ALOT stronger then his konoha crush key since he was stomping naruto until he used kn0

Chojis butterfly mode is a 100x amp

Opening the 1st gate is a 5x amp does anybody have the multipliers for other ones?

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

> Attack Potency: Small Town level+ (He is one of the strongest participants in the Chuunin Exams, and can defeat jounin, higher with Partial Transformation (Stronger than CS1 Sasuke)

Which Jonin did Gaara defeat?

When was Gaara compared to CS1 Sasuke?

I don't remember the Jounin he defeated, thats his current justification on his profile.

During Konoha Crush Gaara fought CS1 Sasuke and was beating him. Sasuke was only able to hurt Gaara with his Chidori.

 

[Kidkinsey]

Sasuke only used him CM for chidori iirc, I don't think he actually fought cm1 sasuke

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

@Damage I know Baki is afraid of Gaara, not sure if that helps.

 

[Kidkinsey]

Didnt he also complete A rank missions which are intended for jonin? As well as being the sands greatest weapon

 

[BlastX]

Small Town Level+(Was easily overpowering Naruto during their fight and could harm him while he was boosted by Kurama's Chakra once he was able to predict his moves) Higher with CSM1
How is that?

Again, any thoughts?

 

[Damage3245]

> @Damage I know Baki is afraid of Gaara, not sure if that helps.

> As well as being the sands greatest weapon

Well, he is a Jinchuriki.

 

[I_am_myself_You_are_you]

ehh, Baki, he observe and restricted Kabuto, and also held back with Guy, Kakashi and Genma.

When said that he was afraid of Gaara

Baki has no way to afraid Gaara

 

[M3X_2.0]

Okay, I read the thread and the sandbox. I disagree with scaling CS Sasuke and One Tail Naruto to Choji. Both can be Town level with the 10x multiplier and their rasengan and chidori clash.

I think we should remove the Choji scaling

 

[I_am_myself_You_are_you]

According to the evidence, he only killed Chunin, which is just 8-A tier

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Okay, I read the thread and the sandbox. I disagree with scaling CS Sasuke and One Tail Naruto to Choji. Both can be Town level with the 10x multiplier and their rasengan and chidori clash.

I think we should remove the Choji scaling

Ah, you reminded me something that i forgot about. Also thwy shouldn't be scaling to choji anyway since his feat isn't 7-C anymore. I forgot to remove that.

 

[M3X_2.0]

A question. What is the Low 7-C+ calc? With the + value, because KN0 feat isn't enough to get the +.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

It's this feat which is 3.4 Kilotons. Alex put the plus on it. If it's wrong, I'll remove the + from the profiles.

 

[M3X_2.0]

That's the baseline value to get the +, so you should put + to all Low 7-C ratings

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

That's the baseline value to get the +, so you should put + to all Low 7-C ratings

Which ones don't have a +?

 

[M3X_2.0]

So, CS2 Sasuke should be 34 Kilotons by being 10 times stronger, and One Tails Naruto also scales.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

So, CS2 Sasuke should be 34 Kilotons by being 10 times stronger, and One Tails Naruto also scales.

For now, yeah. But after the Shippuden upgrades, they would scale higher than that, but thats for another day.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Naruto's ratings

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Fixed.

 

[M3X_2.0]

The 5 times multiplier for the First Gate works for AP as well. This should change the Tier of the characters

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

The 5 times multiplier for the First Gate works for AP as well. This should change the Tier of the characters

Lee scales higher than what the multiplier would give him. Unless i missed something.

 

[I_am_myself_You_are_you]

And AP for Kid Kakashi and Kid Obito. What will happen?

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

And AP for Kid Kakashi and Kid Obito. What will happen?

It will stay the same, just scales to a lower end.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Well, I talked with WoI about something and Lee will get another key possibly

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

How should Chojis profile look like? What feat should we scale his base to?

 

[I_am_myself_You_are_you]

Kid Kakashi and Kid Obito are able to survive Kakko's non-serious play, and he seems to be able to create a very small amount of damage to Kakko (even though Kakko doesn't seem to receive damage and no injuries),

so, scaling should be done to a high end like 7-C, i guess

However, Kid Kakashi should have 2 Key, after getting Obito's eyes, it looks like he is stronger, but still not equal to Kakko.

After Kakko became a little serious with him, he was able to easily destroy his sword from their clash, but his Raikiri is High 7-C because he can definitely damage to Kakko

 

[Damage3245]

Why would we scale Kakko to High 7-C?

He gets his scaling in the first place from Kid Kakashi and Obito.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

They scale to Part one characters, and their ratings should stay the same. We should focused on what's in the OP.

 

[I_am_myself_You_are_you]

Kid Kakashi

Before receiving Obito's eyes | After receiving Obito's eyes

Tier: 7-C | 7-C, High 7-C with Raikiri

Attack_Potency: Town level (Survived Kakko's unkempt fight, and seems to have slightly damaged him. he has been able to become Jounin since he was very young, should at least be compared to Past 1 Naruto) | Town level (Stronger than before), Large Town level with Raikiri (Killed Kakko)

 

[I_am_myself_You_are_you]

Why would we scale Kakko to High 7-C?

He gets his scaling in the first place from Kid Kakashi and Obito.

well How can Kakko scale? He's just playing with kids

and the initial Jounin is High 7-C