Overlord General Discussion Mk.II

[Yobo_Blue]

Anime version wasn't bad by any means. It's juts that the battle of Katze Plains works incredibly well in LN form.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Yeah, the Ainz vs Shalltear in the LN just had more detail and some more spells that were used, but the anime version is really entertaining, especially with the solid minute of Ainz buffing himself

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

@Ape

Perhaps a sort of immunity to physical attacks that don't have those qualities, or a high resistance?

 

[Apeironaxim]

@Ape
Perhaps a sort of immunity to physical attacks that don't have those qualities, or a high resistance?

Yeah, it shouldn't matter too much, because most of who she would fight in vs threads would have some kind of magic, whether spells or a magical weapon, but I felt that passage was important enough to bring up

 

[Apeironaxim]

@Dragon

Who is your favorite character so far?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Sebas


I know I'm the wrong dragon, I wanted to feel special

 

[Apeironaxim]

I was just asking him because he's pretty new to Overlord, but I don't care if anyone else shares their favorite character

Why Sebas?

He's great of course, but I wanna know your reasons

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Hard to say...I'd say Cocytus.....but I like everyone nearly equally.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Also try not to spoil anything too far past the Lizardmen part if it's in your reasons, as Dragon just got past it

Unless Dragon doesn't care about spoilers

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Well, he's a strong butler, so there's that cool factor. He's also a dragon. I like how he has a sense of justice and doesn't completely hate all humans. Touch Me is cool but Sebas has more screen time.

edited out that potential spoiler

I am halfway into the 2nd season of the anime.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Wait.....Sebas is a Dragon????

 

[Apeironaxim]

Dragonoid I believe

 

[FDrybob]

He's a dragonoid, which presumably means a humanoid dragon. He also possesses a dragon transformation that is said to be comparable to the most powerful floor guardians like Shalltear and Mare despite Sebas's complete lack of Divine-class equipment.

As for my favorite character, it has to be Pandora's Actor. He's the only one who actually understands Ainz, and I wish that Ainz would realize this and spend more time with him. He's the only one who actually sees through Ainz and is willing to question his ideas, and even then he's still the most loyal guardian to Ainz.

 

[Apeironaxim]

I don't recall his true form being comparable to Shalltear, but I do know it's superior to Cocytus and Albedo

 

[FDrybob]

Well, If he's superior to those two, then that is already comparable to Mare and Shalltear, though he would probably still lose to Shalltear due to her draining lance. The gap between them in power is pretty small. What determines their ranking is their abilities. (For example, Shalltear is the best at 1v1 combat, and Mare is the best at AoE magic).

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Shalltear is less the best at 1v1 combat, and more the most frustrating to kill without any loses. She has a metric ton of resistances to nearly everything, skills to mitigate damage immensely and survive even more, magic means to heal herself and even a goddamn spear that heals her as she damages you.

On the other side, she has the equipment and spells and special skills to hurt you. Perhaps not hurt you as much as the other Guardians, I don't doubt Cocytus beats her in pure DPS and Sebas quite possibly in Dragonoid form, but those two are still much easier to kill. So she's a damn cockroach, and can still deal respectable damage at worst and put a dent on you at best. You don't have a lot of options to deal effective damage and any sort of minions or companions not sufficiently strong are just big sacks of juicy health for her to spear on and recover.

Shalltear is not powerful in the overwhelming sense, though she can be overwhelming, she's a goddamn hydra. And unlike Hercules, she'd probably snicker at you trying to close the stump with fire, if you could even manage a stump.

 

[Apeironaxim]

We have a wall of text for Ainz, why can't Maruyama just show us what the Guardians can do?

We pretty much only have the basics right now (except for Shalltear), like being a close ranged fighter or an AOE caster

I'm super interested in what Mare can possibly do

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

I feel I might have explained that before, but eh. Admittedly I am also curious as well. This is part of the pains that come with overpowering characters. There's not much to show because there's hardly anything they need.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I'm particularly interested in what Sebastian and Albedo can do.

 

[Apeironaxim]

It also helps that because she's an undead, destroying her vital organs won't kill her

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Is it odd I thought of MJOLNIR armor when they described her armor?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

BTW, has everyone here read up to Volume 13 if they're following the Light Novel?

 

[Apeironaxim]

I'm particularly interested in what Sebastian and Albedo can do.

Considering Albedo has the ability to tank Super Tier magic without damage, who else knows what she can do

 

[Yobo_Blue]

BTW, if you have gotten to Volume 13, how do you think 14 will go?

 

[Jucaslucas]

Walking Corpse-Sama will get the bone.

 

[FDrybob]

Maruyama doesn't really go into much detail about fighting abilities for most characters because the series is more about character interactions than fighting. It would only serve to pad out the story even more than it already is. The wall of text from Ainz's page is there because he has a ton of abilities, and we see his abilities the most.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Anyone have any thoughts on what Demiurge said about Neia at the end of V.13?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Not to mention a lot of explanations are Ainz's reminiscing about stuff related to the present situation or stuff that he was already talking about before. It's not just an usual Isekai "I leveled up and got all of these cool abilities! Let's go in depth even if I won't use most of these almost all the time" explanation.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

BTW, I mentioned two of Ainz' matches on the Versus Thread Removal Thread, so there's that.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

NVM, already been removed.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Which one's?

iirc the Nagato one shouldn't have been added, so there's that one

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Vs Gilgamesh (Fate Series) and Accelerator

 

[Apeironaxim]

The Nagato match has Timestop restricted, which means it shouldn't be added

At least I'm pretty sure that's how that works

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Yeah.

 

[FDrybob]

Someone should make an Ainz vs Touma rematch; the previous one's outcome was based entirely on a single false assumption.

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

Touma from To Aru? Doesn't Ainz stomp physically?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Yeah. TBH, I only really believe the King Hassan loss on Ainz's profile

 

[Apeironaxim]

what was the reasoning for that match again?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Hassan's PC

 

[FDrybob]

The reasoning for the Touma match was that Ainz would just let Touma touch him without even trying anything.