Outlast Revision

[Antoniofer]

From the most recent calculation, not only was agreed that the method of the calculation wasn't acceptable if not that the current rating of non Variants (mostly Miles Upshur) is considered an outlier. From the same post, these are Kepekley's reasons why is considered an outlier:

• Miles getting knocked out by a 10 meter fall right in the beginning of the game.

• Miles falling from roughly 15 or so meters and getting severely hurt. Doing it again and coming extremely close to death.

• Father Martin (a variant, aka "much above Miles") dying in a few seconds to a torch fire.

• Richard Trager dying from being crushed between two floors.

• Variants constantly being seen falling from heights right in front of Miles and actually dying from the fall. Only Walker is ever shown to be able to tank a fall from a great height.

• Wheelchair Variant falling from 10 meters and getting knocked out.

• No variants, except Chris Walker being able to bust down jail doors.

• Variants with weapons taking half a dozen hits to bring down one single wooden door.

• Every single variant who is not Chris Walker having gotten gunned down by the Murkoff Army

• Miles himself getting gunned down and only living to see the tale because of the Walrider's regenerative abilities.

• Miles having been "terminated" by the Army according to the Murkoff Report.

So, Miles would be changed to plain Human or Athletic Human level, and anyone with the "+" in the stat would be removed unless a new calculation appears that justify being at the highest end of Wall level. Any other addition can be discussed in the thread.

 

[Kepekley23]

If that feat was from a high level Variant it'd be less of an outlier. However, this was from Miles Upshur, an average slightly athletic human who has no amps, absolutely nothing. He is a normal human and this is seen countless times throughout the game.

Also, add another feat for that list of anti feats that prove this is an outlier: A team of Variants taking an entire minute of incessant tackles to take down a wooden door.

 

[Antoniofer]

So do you think that Miles should have the Human level instead of the Athletic? At least in Durability since he is more tanky and stamina than muscles. Weaker Variant would be Athletic, although a Football player can take down a door with one tackle (at least the more athletic ones).

 

[Kepekley23]

Three more I found:

• Eddie Gluskin getting killed by a wooden spike (slightly NSFW)

• Frank Manera being able to burn his victims to death with a firewood-powered furnace

• Variants getting torn apart by a sawblade (Majorly NSFW/NSFL)

 

[Kepekley23]

I think he should remain at Athlete level guy going by his athleticism feats.

 

[Antoniofer]

Ok, so Miles will be Athletic, that would mean that any other minor aggressive Variant would be stronger than that since they are pretty much stronger than Miles. Most notable Variant would be 9-C with weapons, and Chris and Walrider would be the ones that are Wall level (without the "+").

 

[QrowBarr]

I'm completely fine with this.

So would that mean Chris' victories would be removed since some those reasons is beacuse of his AP?

 

[Antoniofer]

The really I doubt that someone brought that in a match, otherwise this revision would have happened earlier; I guess those matches whose only rasoning is the AP should be removed.

 

[QrowBarr]

I mean yeah... AP was always brought up in his matches. People probably just didn't really bother, the only one who brought the whole AP issue is MrKingOfNegativity.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Seems fine to me, I agree with this.

 

[Antoniofer]

Ok, so going to downgrade Miles Dura and upgrade his AP to Athletic (or just change its Dura to Athletic?), and "+" will be removed from any profile.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

@Antoniofer You could probably upgrade his AP as well, He held back the Crazy Doctor guy.

 

[Antoniofer]

Ok, I made the changes, Miles and Strager are now Athlete level (the last one 9-C with the shears) and removed the "+" from Walrider and Chris. The twins remained at the same level since, a difference from the others such Strager, they are naturally bigger and can one shot Miles.