Oryx vs Dracula

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Since people were arguing about it in the strongest characters thread and no one made a thread, here we go.

Oryx, the Taken King:

Dracula (Castlevania):

Incon:

 

[Ss3micah]

This wont go anywhere until Glass shows up (he's currently busy atm) and Destiny supporters (wherever they are)

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

This wont go anywhere until Glass shows up (he's currently busy atm) and Destiny supporters (wherever they are)

That would pretty much just be WHYNAUT so yeah

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

• Glass show up
• Says that Oryx can't do shit against Dracula's passive, such as plothax
• Start a long ass debate about plothax vs aca type 5
• Some days later someone creates a staff only thread about aca type 5 vs plothax

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

• Glass show up
• Says that Oryx can't do shit against Dracula's passive, such as plothax
• Start a long ass debate about plothax vs aca type 5
• Some days later someone creates a staff only thread about aca type 5 vs plothax

I second this prediction.

 

[Theglassman12]

Something something Type 5 Acausality is gonna get a CRT on who qualifies or not with the new standards and Oryx may or may not get to keep it.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

If Oryx can't be Type 5, nobody can

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Something something Type 5 Acausality is gonna get a CRT on who qualifies or not with the new standards and Oryx may or may not get to keep it.

Didn't that already happen. IDK if Oryx was ever mentioned in it though

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Didn't that already happen. IDK if Oryx was ever mentioned in it though

Iirc yeah but not remember Oryx part

 

[Theglassman12]

@AbaddonTheDisappointment yes and no, the guy who made the thread sent a lot of misleading info on what qualifies and the thread got closed as a result, I asked Ultima to clarify on the new standards and I asked WHYNAUT a while ago about Oryx's type 5 and he said he was a bit unsure if it has the new standards, but we'll have to see if there's anything in Destiny that adds more to the type 5. If it doesn't qualify then he'd likely be type 4 at best.

 

[Robo432343]

does oryx's acausality type 5 determine the outcome of the result currently??

 

[Da3ggman]

This shall be fun to watch. Following

 

[Ss3micah]

does oryx's acausality type 5 determine the outcome of the result currently??

It’s a Key Factor since Acausal 5 pretty much makes him uninteractable to anything Dracula can throw at him

If he loses it thou Oryx still has his Nigh-Infinite Layers of resistances to fall back on so Dracula would still have a tough time
Then again Drac has Plot Hax which Ortx doesn’t resist

 

[Robo432343]

It’s a Key Factor since Acausal 5 pretty much makes him uninteractable to anything Dracula can throw at him

If he loses it thou Oryx still has his Nigh-Infinite Layers of resistances to fall back on so Dracula would still have a tough time
Then again Drac has Plot Hax which Ortx doesn’t resist

plot hax wont affect oryx coz aca 5 according to current standards no? if the current standards are going to change to whats stated above then drac would probably win but this is the present so oryx is uninteractable (as of now)

doesn't this mean oryx wins with his countless layered stuff??

 

[WHYNAUT]

Well I'd argue Oryx doesn't need Type 5 acausality to win.

"it literally destabilizes the foe’s power and rewrites the narrative to let them win. And it works when any powers of chaos are active, which given Dark Lord soma is being used that’s what’s happening. Meaning whatever Sword Logic does literally does not work as it’s destabilized completely." - what Glass said in a previous thread.

There's no new scans about the plot manipulation on Dracula's profile, so I'm gonna assume this still holds true.

Thing is, that doesn't work. Dracula doesn't have the range or interaction feats to do anything to the Sword Logic. So the majority of Oryx's abilities will function and will affect Dracula just fine.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

@AbaddonTheDisappointment yes and no, the guy who made the thread sent a lot of misleading info on what qualifies and the thread got closed as a result, I asked Ultima to clarify on the new standards and I asked WHYNAUT a while ago about Oryx's type 5 and he said he was a bit unsure if it has the new standards, but we'll have to see if there's anything in Destiny that adds more to the type 5. If it doesn't qualify then he'd likely be type 4 at best.

Just wondering, what exactly are the standards for type 5? Just evidence that they’re uninteractable?

 

[Theglassman12]

Basically you need statements to be an unchangeable entity where nothing in the world that becomes altered would remotely affect you, and you need to have the reason be tied to you transcending causality as a whole for it to qualify, if you have only one or the other it wouldn’t qualify.