Orochimaru vs Six Paths of Pain

[Arkenis]

Push away doesn't mean damage, and there's a 5 second cooldown.

So? I'm only arguing the jutsu can knock them away. And even granting Pain can only do it with lower amounts of paths up doesn't change it eventually happening.

What if Manda just ate them?

Manda's mouth isn't massive compared to them. And eating them won't instantly kill them, he bites them, they duplicate and he starts becoming overwhelmed.
Shit even the other Frog who fought the dog back in the rain village had trouble with them. This is also ignoring the fact that the other animals as well can be used to help overwhelm Manda, the edos and Oro.

 

[SlendVeny]

So? I'm only arguing the jutsu can knock them away. And even granting Pain can only do it with lower amounts of paths up doesn't change it eventually happening.

Orochimaru has prior knowledge, he'd target Deva first.

Manda's mouth isn't massive compared to them. And eating them won't instantly kill them, he bites them, they duplicate and he starts becoming overwhelmed.

Stomach acid

Shit even the other Frog who fought the dog back in the rain village had trouble with them. This is also ignoring the fact that the other animals as well can be used to help overwhelm Manda, the edos and Oro.

He has other snakes as well, they ain't Manda level but they're probably centipede level.

 

[Arkenis]

Orochimaru has prior knowledge, he'd target Deva first.

And get swarmed by the insane amount of pains and animals summoned.

Stomach acid

... Are you serious? Manda isn't massive enough to eat the dog whole lmao, and again damage done to the dog will just make it duplicate till it rips apart Manda from the inside even if it could eat the dog whole. Also when has Manda tried eating something big?

He has other snakes as well, they ain't Manda level but they're probably centipede level.

If those snakes don't scale to Gama then they get stomped as well.

 

[SlendVeny]

And get swarmed by the insane amount of pains and animals summoned.

He can annihilate most of the Pains and summons, while his Edos are also holding back everyone.

... Are you serious? Manda isn't massive enough to eat the dog whole lmao, and again damage done to the dog will just make it duplicate till it rips apart Manda from the inside even if it could eat the dog whole. Also when has Manda tried eating something big?

Snakes eat things nearly the same size as them whole at times. Plus, he could just eat them while they're small.

If those snakes don't scale to Gama then they get stomped as well.

Very few of Pain's animals are at that level. The Giant Panda took a hit from Jiraiya's hair, the dog could fight a Gama, the Chameleon could briefly hold Naruto while his chakra was being absorbed, and the ox could force Jiraiya onto the backfoot while he was charging his summon. That's all the feats. The dogs have no feats other than fighting a Gama through hax.

 

[Arkenis]

Snakes eat things nearly the same size as them whole at times. Plus, he could just eat them while they're small.

From the jump they are big, like big to the point theyre relative to Gama.

Very few of Pain's animals are at that level. The Giant Panda took a hit from Jiraiya's hair, the dog could fight a Gama, the Chameleon could briefly hold Naruto while his chakra was being absorbed, and the ox could force Jiraiya onto the backfoot while he was charging his summon. That's all the feats. The dogs have no feats other than fighting a Gama through hax.

The dogs had gama and the other frog out of breath, so considering all the animals you listed: Panda, Chameleon, Ox, there's also the Bird which knocked back Gamaken and it can fly making it a decent counter to Manda. Point is Manda isn't dealing with all of this on his own, and the edos dealing with the pains, getting their jutsus absorbed, and getting shinra tenseied isn't gonna end well.

 

[SlendVeny]

From the jump they are big, like big to the point theyre relative to Gama.

Not while splitting

The dogs had gama and the other frog out of breath

because of hax alone. besides, at a certain point, it's going to have too many heads to walk. It grows bonus heads, it doesn't get that much bigger.

there's also the Bird which knocked back Gamaken

And died after one hit from Jiraiya

and it can fly making it a decent counter to Manda. Point is Manda isn't dealing with all of this on his own

the other snakes can handle most of them, since a sizable portion of them have no decent damaging techniques, and the panda can't even move.

, and the edos dealing with the pains, getting their jutsus absorbed, and getting shinra tenseied isn't gonna end well.

Remember, everyone on Orochimaru's team has clones, and Orochimaru can hit the Deva Path with a good old stab in the chest with a telekinetic sword attack.

 

[Arkenis]

Not while splitting

Yes from the jump they are big lmao go look at it in the Pain vs Naruto fight.

because of hax alone. besides, at a certain point, it's going to have too many heads to walk. It grows bonus heads, it doesn't get that much bigger.

hax alone? So they'll end up tiring out Manda too.

And died after one hit from Jiraiya

That never happened in manga.

the other snakes can handle most of them, since a sizable portion of them have no decent damaging techniques, and the panda can't even move.

How powerful are these snakes? cause most of the animal summons are scalable to Jiraiya and Gamabunta.

Remember, everyone on Orochimaru's team has clones, and Orochimaru can hit the Deva Path with a good old stab in the chest with a telekinetic sword attack.

Yeah they can't summon a lot. And the deva path can just use basho to pull Oro away if he tried that.

 

[SlendVeny]

That never happened in manga.

Ok, well it didn't do damage anyway.

How powerful are these snakes? cause most of the animal summons are scalable to Jiraiya and Gamabunta.

No, they are not.

Yeah they can't summon a lot. And the deva path can just use basho to pull Oro away if he tried that.

Bansho tenin has a cooldown, sword doesn't.

 

[Arkenis]

Ok, well it didn't do damage anyway.

It knocked back the Frog lol and that frog scales to Gamabunta. And im not arguing about ap just that the summons overall show power on gama‘s level, enough to hold back Manda which is something even gama can do.

Bansho tenin has a cooldown, sword doesn't.

Wont matter if he gets flung far away from his sword.

 

[SlendVeny]

It knocked back the Frog lol and that frog scales to Gamabunta.

Did 0 damage though, and that frog downscales off Gamabunta, maybe.

And im not arguing about ap just that the summons overall show power on gama‘s level, enough to hold back Manda which is something even gama can do.

Fair enough.

Wont matter if he gets flung far away from his sword.

I suppose, but he can do it during the fling, and his clones can do it too.

 

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