Original Superman Upgrade

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/References_for_Common_Feats#Destroying_a_Skyscraper

Destroying a skyscraper is Multi-City Block level+ to Small Town level+. He should be upgraded.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Small Town level (high-end for first method) is the best imo.

 

[Ionliosite]

Ok, sure do.

 

[KLOL506]

Finally. This was long awaited.

 

[KLOL506]

Also I can't find the scan anywhere but he did definitely shatter an entire skyscraper with a single blow. Can anyone look for it?

 

[KLOL506]

And now that we have a set value for frag and v. frag for reinforced concrete, we should re-do the calc by just using the new values we have (Also note how it doesn't even include the value for steel).

Frag: (32363640000+19463981100+44949496300) cm^3*10 J/cc= 9.68e+11 J or 231.36 tons of TNT (Still 8-A)

V. Frag: (32363640000+19463981100+44949496300) cm^3*61.2 J/cc= 5.92276e+12 J =1.41557 kilotons of TNT (Small Town level) (Higher than the current high-end we have

Pulv.: (32363640000+19463981100+44949496300) cm^3*610 J/cc= 2.75e+13 J or 6.565 kilotons of TNT (Town level)

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I think the other method (separating the materials) is probably better. So Small Town level to Small Town level+.

 

[KLOL506]

In that case one should also add the value for steel as otherwise it wouldn't even deserve to be called reinforced concrete in the first place

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

So should it be recalculated?

 

[KLOL506]

Prolly, once you figure out the percentage of steel of course, it should be fine.

It'll prolly wield higher results.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Can we just say "at least Small Town level+ for now?

 

[KLOL506]

Yes.

Though again, anyone know where the scan is?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Is it this?

 

[KLOL506]

Yep, that's it.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Would it be fine for me to edit the page? Since the Low 7-C is an accepted calc.

 

[GyroNutz]

This seems fine, remember to put the relevant scan in the ap justification though

 

[SuperAPM]

Spinosaurus75DinosaurFa

I gathered a bunch of Golden Age Superman feats a few months back and posted them up to be calced, but nothing ever came of it. If you want to give them a shot I'll post them here for you quickly:

Breaking a building over a plane

Throws one boulder into another hard enough to shatter both

Throws a baseball around the world

Casually lifts 3000 Tons

Squishes metal hard enough to start Fusio

Splits Mountains apart Twice

Pulls Island together

Carries a Mountai

Destroys a Meteor that would have destroyed half of Metropolis

Throws a skyscraper around the world

This nonsense

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Hmmn he does seem much higher than Low 7-C based on these feats, but what level is he usually portrayed as?

 

[KLOL506]

My best bet is 7-B to 7-A

 

[SuperAPM]

I guess we can decide whats most consistent for him after all the feats are calced. Assuming you want to calc any of them of course.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

For the last one, the strongest earthquake recorded is 9.6 magnitude, so the radiated waves would be 1.5848932e19 Joules or Large Mountain level+

Seems to be the most impressive feat you linked but might be an outlier.

 

[SuperAPM]

Actually the meteor feat might be more impressive than I let on. Whilst the meteor itself would have only destroyed half of metropolis, Superman impacting with it was said to have rocked the earth and sky. Which would probably elicit tier 6 results.

What are the results of the other feats? From there we can decide which end is more consistent for this era.

 

[KLOL506]

Skyscraper feat takes 20 minutes or 1200 seconds

40075000 meters circumference / 1200 seconds= 33395.833 m/s

0.5*222500000 kg for average skyscraper*33395.833^2= 1.2407508734809028e+17 J or 29 megatons of TNT, City level

EDIT: NVM the feat takes 20 minutes, correcting in a bit.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Carrying a mountain is Class T too, we should try to calc the mountain splitting calc too as a supporting feat, but yeah we might be getting 6-C Original Superman.

 

[SuperAPM]

I'll try looking for more feats in the mean time

 

[SuperAPM]

Found a respect thread with most of his significant feats, will look through it tomorrow

 

[Hellbeast1]

Shit who knew OG Supes was so strong

 

[ByAsura]

For the last one, the strongest earthquake recorded is 9.6 magnitude, so the radiated waves would be 1.5848932e19 Joules or Large Mountain level+Seems to be the most impressive feat you linked but might be an outlier.

This was Superman #35 from 1945, while that earthquake took place in 1960.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

You are correct.

The strongest earthquake before 1945 is the Arica earthquake in 1868, which has a magnitude of 9.0.

10^(1.5*9+4.8) = 1.9952623e18 Joules, Mountain level

 

[SuperAPM]

Well, couldn't find anything more impressive than what I already posted. Did any of you manage to get any of those other feats calced?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Best one seems to be 7-A.

 

[SuperAPM]

But what do the rest yield, if they're possible to calc? Alongside the Skyscraper throwing feat they can be used as further supporting evidence for a 7-A tiering.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I'll probably try the meteor calc tmr, while the island and mountain feats can be good LS feats.

 

[Jared1111]

So i just want to point out that Superman was said to not just carry a mountain, but the Appalachian Mountain RANGE to Metropolis, and the image shows multiple mountains and the page also mentions he took the MOUNTAINS back to their Geographical location after it was done.

The Appalachian Mountains stretch for over 1500 Miles (2400 km) so i'd assume that would be more in the ball park of Island Level to near Country Level in terms of strength at least, especially since he did it so ridiculously fast.

I'd say it's a bit overkill, but Pre-Crisis once fought Jack Frost and his solution to beating him was to push the Sun closer to the Earth to scare him. So i think showing off is sort of a pre-crisis kryptonian thing.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Hmmn how many mountains are there though?

 

[SuperAPM]

There appears to be at least 5 in the first panel

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Hmmn assuming it's 5 big mountains each one is 480 km long, or 240 km radius, assuming at least 609.6 m height (minimum of a mountain).

pi*240000^2*(609.6/3)*5*2800 = 5.1478288e17 kg, Class P

 

[SuperAPM]

There is also the base at the bottom that appears to be roughly the same height as well.

What would the KE value be for him carrying and dropping it onto the ocean?

 

[RageComment]

Wait, destroying a Large Building... is Town Level?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

What's the distance and timeframe of him moving the mountains though?