One Punch Man LS Upgrade

[Kachon123]

In a previous thread, Orochi's LS was downgraded, when the thread wasn't finished, and even though the OP requested LS to be separated.

Orochi, and thus other OPM God tiers should keep class Z LS because Orochi stated that he will pull energy from the Earth.

There have been previous arguments as to why class Z LS shouldn't be added such as:

"We don't know how Orochi did it." or whatnot.

This reasoning makes no sense because we also see Orochi diving his tail down into the magma, and it displacing the core.

 

[Kin201]

Garou could somewhat resist Orochi's lifting strength. If Orochi had had Class Z LS, he would have sent Garou flying to sky without any resistance, even if you said Orochi was massively holding back.

 

[ByAsura]

That wasn't even close to the argument. Orochi was going to become Class Z because the layers of the Earth that he distorted were that heavy, but warping something with energy isn't physical lifting strength.

You're conflating this with another (superfluous) argument over Orochi extending his tail to the core and pulling up the energy directly.

 

[Kachon123]

Garou could somewhat resist Orochi's lifting strength. If Orochi had had Class Z LS, he would have sent Garou flying to sky without any resistance, even if you said Orochi was massively holding back.

It's for the same reason we don't scale Garou to Orochi via this fight. Orochi was told to hold back by Psykos

 

[Dienomite22]

Garou could somewhat resist Orochi's lifting strength. If Orochi had had Class Z LS, he would have sent Garou flying to sky without any resistance, even if you said Orochi was massively holding back.

I don't see the correlation

 

[KingTempest]

When did we start scaling lifting strength to carrying energy?

There's no density of "energy" known

 

[Kachon123]

When did we start scaling lifting strength to carrying energy?

There's no density of "energy" known

There was also a calc that yielded class Z for the displacement of the core and mantle.

 

[KingTempest]

There was also a calc that yielded class Z for the displacement of the core and mantle.

Can you please link it?

 

[Qawsedf234]

I'm not sure if distorting the core really scales to lifting strength. It seems to be more of a by product due to him pulling up the energy than Orochi seriously lifting it.

 

[Kachon123]

Can you please link it?

This calc was accepted, including the LS section, and in that part of the calc (LS), it said this:

Even disregarding that what Orochi pulled was not the core, it still affected the other layers of the earth.

 

[ByAsura]

And then we contested it.

 

[Kachon123]

And then we contested it.

With what?

 

[ByAsura]

With the logic that it's not actually lifting strength. It's energy affecting the crust.

 

[Kachon123]

With the logic that it's not actually lifting strength. It's energy affecting the crust.

Energy that affected the crust, which in affect caused all the other layers of the earth to move?

 

[Kachon123]

The displacement lines were moving in the direction of the tail pilling the energy up. With "logic," you can easily deduce that the tail caused the displacement. Which was class Z

 

[ByAsura]

None of which is physical lifting strength for Orochi.

 

[Kachon123]

None of which is physical lifting strength for Orochi.

Why is that?

 

[KingTempest]

He didn’t pull anything solid. He pulled energy, which produced a reaction that could be calced at class Z

 

[Kachon123]

The class Z came from the displacement, which was caused by Orochi's tail. We all know that it was energy that Orochi pulles.

 

[KingTempest]

But you can’t calc pulling energy…

 

[Kachon123]

But you can’t calc pulling energy…

You don't understand. The LS doesn't come from the pull. It comes from the displacement that the tail caused, which was calced, and accepted as class Z.

 

[KingTempest]

You don't understand. The LS doesn't come from the pull. It comes from the displacement that the tail caused, which was calced, and accepted as class Z.

Ohhh, my bad

 

[Kin201]

You don't understand. The LS doesn't come from the pull. It comes from the displacement that the tail caused, which was calced, and accepted as class Z.

It may not be scaled to Orochi's regular lifting strength. He used his tail to do that and we don't know exactly which method he used to perform that feat.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Ohhh, my bad

Nah you are right
What caused the displacement is the energy pulled not the tail

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Nah you are right
What caused the displacement is the energy pulled not the tail

Which was caused by the tail.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Which was caused by the tail.

And does not scale to the tail

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

And does not scale to the tail

??? So tail perform the feat but tail doesn't scale what?

 

[PrinceofPein]

??? So tail perform the feat but tail doesn't scale what?

The tail pulled the energy, the energy distorted the earth core, there is no proof that the tail even reached the core to pull the energy
The earth quake was also caused by the energy moving

 

[Kachon123]

there is no proof that the tail even reached the core to pull the energy

Read the OP. Why would Orochi dig his tail down, and say that he would pull the energy up, if it wasn't his tail that pulled it up? It takes so much mental gymnastics to say that.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Read the OP. Why would Orochi dig his tail down, and say that he would pull the energy up, if it wasn't his tail that pulled it up? It takes so much mental gymnastics to say that.

K.
Still it was the energy that distorted the core not the tail

 

[Kachon123]

Still it was the energy that distorted the core not the tail

proof?

 

[PrinceofPein]

proof?

?? Lol

 

[Kachon123]

?? Lol

Sorr, I misread, It was the displacement of the mantle and other inner parts of the Earth the was class Z.\, which were caused by the tail, not the energy.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Sorr, I misread, It was the displacement of the mantle and other inner parts of the Earth the was class Z.\, which were caused by the tail, not the energy.

Except that was literally shown to be caused by the energy

 

[Kachon123]

Except that was literally shown to be caused by the tail

I know...? Thats what I'm saying

 

[PrinceofPein]

I know...? Thats what I'm saying

Typo
I meant it was the energy that was shown to distort the mantle not the tail

 

[Kachon123]

I meant it was the energy that was shown to distort the mantle not the tail

The energy distorted the core. The tail displaced the mantle sir.

 

[PrinceofPein]

The energy distorted the core. The tail displaced the mantle sir.

Scans of the tail displacing the mantle?

 

[Kachon123]

Scans of the tail displacing the mantle?

https://cdn.readkakegurui.com/file/cdnpog/One-punch-man-chap-115.5/026.jpg

 

[PrinceofPein]

https://cdn.readkakegurui.com/file/cdnpog/One-punch-man-chap-115.5/026.jpg

That was literally the energy