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I agree with this.
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One Punch Man 7-A Upgrades
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Could it be argued that Saitama punched Boros with the same force he used with Goribas?
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Groribas is like, At least Low 7-B, so no. And he definitely was punching Boros with 6-A force, considering Saitama did break the armor.
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I agree to this.
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I must have missed a lot. I thought we were discussing if armored boros was at least 7-A?
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Either At least 7-A, possibly 6-C or Unknown, possibly 6-C. Those are the options
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Second one seems best.
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Why would he be Unknown, when we can scale him above Mel?
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This, I don’t understand how Unknown is better when we know for a fact that Boros is stronger than Melz.
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And if anyone is wondering, Armored Boros kinda isn't meant for match ups
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Why do we assume his armor is more durable than him?
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What is there to say he can shatter his own armor?
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I wasn't implying he could. Was asking about dura.
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There's nothing to say he's more durable than his armor
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What's saying the latter?
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From what I saw from the scan Boros was punched, the armor was completely destroyed, and he collided with the pillar without the armors protection.
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We need proof that he scales above his Armor's dura. Without proof, we cannot rate him as that.
The armor only shattered after he collided with the pillar
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Hmmm I'm rereading and it looks like the shattering happened during his flight to the pillar.
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Bits of his armor did shatter, but a good majority was still clearly still intact when he was on the pillar.
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But the impact where the punch was wasn't. Boros endured some of it at least.
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His torso still had a lot of his armor
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Doesn't Bomb scale above Darkshine by virtue of performing better vs a stronger Garou?
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That's more of a skill feat. When Garou was fighting DS, DS was still taking his attacks. Bomb was just able to match him in skill and speed. Not AP or Dura.
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Plus this ***** up the scaling a lot.
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He wasn't punched in the torso though.
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Here's my proposal to make the 7-A scaling easier to understand and better:
Scales to or above a full power DS:
Spiral Garou (Current Garou scales higher than this form)
VFU
Goukestu
CK
AB Bang
GS
Downscales from a casual DS:
Half Monster Garou
Scales to or Above Half Monster Garou in some way:
Flashy
Atomic
Bang
Bomb
Rover (Scales above Bang/Bomb)
Pre-molt EC (Scales to or below Bang/Bomb)
Post-molt EC (Scales above Gouketsu and to AB Bang)
Gyro Gryo (Psykos scales above Gyro Gyro)
Drive Knight and Genos (Downscales from Psykos)
Nyan (Downscales or scales to Drive Knight)
Melz (Downscales from Bang)
BS (varies up to the same tier as atomic)
Scales to or above a full power DS:
Spiral Garou (Current Garou scales higher than this form)
VFU
Goukestu
CK
AB Bang
GS
Downscales from a casual DS:
Half Monster Garou
Scales to or Above Half Monster Garou in some way:
Flashy
Atomic
Bang
Bomb
Rover (Scales above Bang/Bomb)
Pre-molt EC (Scales to or below Bang/Bomb)
Post-molt EC (Scales above Gouketsu and to AB Bang)
Gyro Gryo (Psykos scales above Gyro Gyro)
Drive Knight and Genos (Downscales from Psykos)
Nyan (Downscales or scales to Drive Knight)
Melz (Downscales from Bang)
BS (varies up to the same tier as atomic)
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Post Molt EC scales above Gouketsu and to AB Bang.
Could Gums downscale from Genos?
And there's 5 head Melz too, which should have his own tier.
Could Gums downscale from Genos?
And there's 5 head Melz too, which should have his own tier.
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Looks alright
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Why does HM Garou downscale from casual DS, when he was getting up from Darkshine when he was trying?
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DS was trying, but was not full power. Garou was able to endure multiple hits so at best half monster Garou is equal to or slightly below non full power DS. But for arguments sake I just downscale him from casual DS to make it simple.
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Post-Molt EC scales to AB Bang. Other than that, this looks fine.
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Trying can mean a lot of things. Long story short he got one-shot by a non-full-powered DS tackle, which he did get up from thanks to the type two immortality (or regen? Either way his durability got trounced), so I support downscaling
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What do you think about the extent of darkshine holding back?
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Considerable enough that Darkshine himself is confident that swapping from mid-effort to 100% is enough to defeat a Garou who could withstand said mid-effort. If you're asking me to quantify the difference, I'd probably guess 2X. 1.5X for our purposes, or however close you can get to that
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I meant do you agree Garou downscaling all the way down to 7-A or just 7-A+.
I still think the 7-A scaling doesn't make sense and seems self contradictory. I'd got with either sticking to the 7-B scaling if we choose not to downscale or we can't quantify downscale, or we go with 7-A+ as Darkshine likely put more effort into attacking Garou then he did against a fodder.
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If we're scaling Darkshine to 7-A+ calc, then yes down to 7-A.
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Why so? His 7-A+ calc comes from killing a fodder monster. Him using 7-A levels of power would imply he used less power against Garou, who he saw as a threat, than some random monster.
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Downscaling Garou to just 7-A makes no sense when DS not trying is 800 megatons and he put in more effort against Garou.
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I agree, are we scaling Darkshine to baseline? If that's the case, then I don't see why we can't do 7-A+ HM Garou since we're talking about a casual darkshine in both cases.
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The argument is that we have no idea about how much Darkshine is holding back, so they downscale to 7-A. But if don't know how much Darkshine is holding back? Then why assume 7-A, why couldn't he be holding back to 7-B.
If we're gonna use the whole "we don't know how much Darkshine was holding back thing", listing them as 7-B feels much safer than 7-A.
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