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That's my point; that it's a bad comparison.
Let's agree to disagree on that point then.
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One-Punch Man: 2 MFTL Calcs
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I've stated that I disagree with it after you posted that.
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the whole fight disagrees with that. there are many times they got hit and stop or clash and stop. also he screams looking at garou's direction while fully standing. also he starts screaming after standing still. manga also shows it to be because of garou's growth. to be honest it should be the same instance, i don't even see how it's not the same instance rather than just stated speed from flashy flash.
no matter the case, at the very least, flashy flash's speed of light statement fits here. it doesn't come from a calc. supported by feats. not calc stalking. characters can react and move at this lvl from no movement etc etc.
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I know. I said "still," asking if that stance still remains.
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anyway, for the blitz calc. my opinions are that using the current calc or changing PS's used speed with the speed of light. reasonings for using the same calc is that within the whole fight we have seen that even when they get hit and stop or clash and stop. they are able to move at the same level of speed after stopping. PS after getting hit from garou doesn't get attacked the moment he stands up. first he stands up. after that, he starts to scream.
if it doesn't get accepted like that. using flashy flash's speed should be fine here. simple, it comes from an statement supported by feats and calcs. it doesn't come from an calc which makes it usable. PS is stated to be faster than flashy flash. shows that he applies to this statement as well. using the speed of light here is not calc stalking and seems acceptable by our rules, also like i said before. within the fight. there are many times they stop and move at the same lvl of speed against the opponent in motion while they are not. also PS stands up. after that he screams.
the manga also shows that the reason of this is because of garou's acceleration.
also for the sneeze calc. from this page and how jupiter's gas starts dispersion, we can see the sneeze is at its expulsion state when it reaches jupiter. it seems fine to use 0.18 seconds
also like kachon says. the sneeze should logically end after it's named there + considering the next page after that.
if it doesn't get accepted like that. using flashy flash's speed should be fine here. simple, it comes from an statement supported by feats and calcs. it doesn't come from an calc which makes it usable. PS is stated to be faster than flashy flash. shows that he applies to this statement as well. using the speed of light here is not calc stalking and seems acceptable by our rules, also like i said before. within the fight. there are many times they stop and move at the same lvl of speed against the opponent in motion while they are not. also PS stands up. after that he screams.
the manga also shows that the reason of this is because of garou's acceleration.
also for the sneeze calc. from this page and how jupiter's gas starts dispersion, we can see the sneeze is at its expulsion state when it reaches jupiter. it seems fine to use 0.18 seconds
also like kachon says. the sneeze should logically end after it's named there + considering the next page after that.
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This seemingly was just Homeless Emperor talking out of his ass because Black Sperm as a single cell says he can't even beat a puppy.I did before it’s literally a stated number we have official confirmation on his boost
The multiplier is just not valid anymore.
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i understand the cover part(still think it's fine since it's a description of the character but ok) but can't see why the databook should be accepted as unreliable. it's not just stated but supported by feats
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It’s possible that the puppy thing was just an expression to say he’s weakened and not actually weaker then a regular puppy or possibly each individual cell is weaker then they were during the MA
But it would technically still be valid by the sheer fact it’s literally simple addition of stats
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considering how it was interpreted in the series. overall number effects the individual power. we know it since even when they divide, they are equally powerful.
that puppy thing is when the overall number itself is 1.
we saw that 100 black sperm can react to metal bat' swinging. or say individually they are class A lvl.
dunno about his multiplier statements though. so it depends
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I mean i don’t see why the multiplier isn’t valid it’s again simple addition 1 + 1 = a sperm with the power of 2 they are each adding their stats to 1 individual person
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There isn't sufficient proof that speed is added up similarly. Getting faster is not, by itself, enough proof.
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for black sperm's multiplier, another thread would be required (probably)
anyway, these are my opinions for this thread for now.
for black sperm's multiplier, another thread would be required (probably)
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It’s literally stated to add up similar bruh the reason they talk about individual sperms and what they can do
is because they are talking about the stats of individual sperms added together
Again simple addition what part are you so confused about?
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I'm not confused about anything; if you don't like it call for more staff or go to some other powerscaling website where they'd accept this.
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You are confused tho the proof has already been said many times but you don’t understand
It’s quite literally simple addition which is stated each individual sperm stats added together
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can you just show the pages about those statements? or make a crt about it
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Agreed, let's not go further into that topic here.
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so how will it continue?
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I gave reasoning as to why I think it's flawed. Do you have an opinion on the reasoning?
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I think you have a valid point.
To give a similar example, we see when Saitama does his Serious Punch against Elder Centipede, the name for the technique is still going on even after the punch has connected.
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I shouldn't have used the time frame of a sneeze, as it might as well have ended here.
I think a 1 second timeframe could be fine as the gas dispersion appears instantaneous, but that's just my suggestion.
I think a 1 second timeframe could be fine as the gas dispersion appears instantaneous, but that's just my suggestion.
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I agree.
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Comes out to about 235.57c, so Massively FTL
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yeah, 1 second should be fine.
though i believe 0.1-0.3 seconds should be fine as well. considering how the sneeze hits jupiter in this page. seeing how the gas starts to dispersion, the sneeze seems to be at its expulsion state. also makes sense considering the distance between IO and Jupiter is around 421000 km and this feat happened instantly, it wouldn't lose it's velocity or energy or duration since there is no external force that will effect it in outer space.
i believe using the sneeze's duration should be fine
though i believe 0.1-0.3 seconds should be fine as well. considering how the sneeze hits jupiter in this page. seeing how the gas starts to dispersion, the sneeze seems to be at its expulsion state. also makes sense considering the distance between IO and Jupiter is around 421000 km and this feat happened instantly, it wouldn't lose it's velocity or energy or duration since there is no external force that will effect it in outer space.
i believe using the sneeze's duration should be fine
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If we use 1 second, this calculation will also be 1 second and yes. I agree with 1 second more.
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When we observe closely, Saitama actually sneezed twice, not just once. The first sneeze caused Jupiter to scatter, and the second sneeze propelled them out of Io. Notice the exclamation 'Uwa-gh!'—this is an expression indicating a sneeze from the way it sounds.
Therefore, generally, the speed of them being propelled out is not related to the timeframe of the first sneeze at all. He sneezed the first time with a timeframe of 1 second or whatever, but the second sneeze might have taken 0.1-0.3 seconds cuz It was a sudden sneeze. It is not related to the timeframe from scatter. In the end, it shouldn't be related to the speed of the first sneeze. We only need to find the distance of the propelled out divided by the timeframe of the sneeze. Which is unlikely to produce very impressive results…
Therefore, generally, the speed of them being propelled out is not related to the timeframe of the first sneeze at all. He sneezed the first time with a timeframe of 1 second or whatever, but the second sneeze might have taken 0.1-0.3 seconds cuz It was a sudden sneeze. It is not related to the timeframe from scatter. In the end, it shouldn't be related to the speed of the first sneeze. We only need to find the distance of the propelled out divided by the timeframe of the sneeze. Which is unlikely to produce very impressive results…
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Uwa-gh! is from garou. he was screaming.
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Yeah, My bad. I have checked the raw version.
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i don't think that "seri-" "-ous" part is necessarily after the sneeze ends. looking close to the "seri-" page, seems like the sneeze is still coming out from saitama's mouth. so i don't think it would end there or anything. also there is the fact that manga shows they fly off from IO because of the force of the sneeze. so, at most it should be within or after its expulsion state which is 0.1 to 0.3 second. at most it should be around there. either taking when the expulsion state ends or when it's at the peak.
for the platinum calc, it depends if it's accepted as the same situation for the ftl moment from garou vs platinum or not. using the speed of light statement from flashy flash's databook for platinum should be fine i guess, considering it's also supported by feats as well.
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A timeframe that is not 1 second. He probably made a mistake.
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Wait nevermind. The 1 second timeframe is for the dispersion of gas, not for Saitama and Garou flying off of Io.
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1 second is not needed for this. saitama and garou fly off from IO after all that happened to jupiter. the required time for them to move away because of the sneeze would be the best. which at most it would happen within expulsion state of the sneeze which is between 0.1 and 0.3 seconds, since that's when there is a force applied to garou and saitama from the sneeze. which shows what happened to jupiter happened within that timeframe.
using the time where the force applied to them is at the peak or when it ends should be fine.
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