One Piece Vibrations

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Uhuh.. and where's the shockwave vs shockwave in that? Emission is forcefield creation/reflection, not shockwave manipulation.

Advanced armament haki can create shockwaves including Luffy when he attacked Kaidou he used emission the same guy that was impossible to be hurt by normal bursts of haki, actually kaidou himself was barely hurt with advanced armament haki because of his fruit.

it's not on the scans??? Nothing is my burden if all I'm arguing is what's on the pages lmao

No, you are trying to prove that normal haki can "counter" shockwaves to a certain extent, thats not on the pages your theory is that its because of the haki, but it was never stated that haki can resist vibrations.

 

[SnookB]

No, you are trying to prove that normal haki can "counter" shockwaves to a certain extent, thats not on the pages your theory is that its because of the haki, but it was never stated that haki can resist vibrations.

Armament haki is used and hasshoken doesn't work
Armament haki isn't used and hasshoken works
You are literally telling someone quoting scans to you the burden of proof is on them.
If it works vs non-armament and doesn't work vs armament, then armament resisting it is the only answer that makes sense. We have it flat out one shotting a comparable character to the user when armament isn't applied, too. It's obvious that the shockwaves wreck even those relative if they're not defending with busoshoku.

 

[Fireld]

We also know that Zoan type get an extra resistance and regeneration like luffy which could be the reason why he was ok but others did not

No, shockwave moves like Hasshoken have bypassed Luffy's blunt force resistance.

Don Sai. Again.

And Garp.

Advanced armament haki can create shockwaves including Luffy when he attacked Kaidou he used emission the same guy that was impossible to be hurt by normal bursts of haki, actually kaidou himself was barely hurt with advanced armament haki because of his fruit.

Advanced Armement/Emission Haki doesn't create shockwaves. You're talking about Beyond Advanced Armament/Internal Destruction he used at the start of the fight.

 

[SnookB]

Advanced armament haki can create shockwaves including Luffy when he attacked Kaidou he used emission the same guy that was impossible to be hurt by normal bursts of haki, actually kaidou himself was barely hurt with advanced armament haki because of his fruit.

And that's energy projection, not shockwaves.
Read the page. If you're thinking about internal destruction, then that's not shockwaves either.

 

[Fireld]

bump

 

[Nierre]

was this concluded?

 

[Fireld]

Nope

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Bump

 

[Fireld]

Isn't it possible that Luffy is just durable enough to withstand Chinjao's Hasshoken? Being able to bypass armor and shields and "negate durability" isn't the same as being able to harm anyone regardless of their toughness. There is an AP component, the nature of the vibrations is just in how that AP is delivered to the opponent.

Do you have any thoughts at all about the rest of the OP?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

If the level of Armament Haki only adds a layer over the skin and not internally but can block vibrations/shockwaves from hitting their insides then resistance to vibration/durability negation of that nature should be fine in my opinion.

 

[Fireld]

Then it's fair game since Haki covers just the outside of the user like armor/barrier & stops the vibrations from phasing in.

Any thoughts on hyperbole part?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Any thoughts on hyperbole part?

That can go for sure. It's not even like were drowning in users trying to buff Whitebeard because of it so it should be removed especially since it was removed from the hyperbole page.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Also, Akainu Kuzan and Kizaru stopped Whitebeard's shockwave with advanced Armament.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good to me.

 

[Fireld]

Great! Can sb open the haki page?