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I agree with everything proposed, even Queen.
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We see it being formed via particles (99% sure it's photons) and the Kanji is the same one used by the other light users.
I'm confused about this hard to figure out what you mean I still don't know what Kanji means... Is it a different Japanese wording? oh I understand now but still need better wording and explainingI'd say the Kanji from the author (ピカ = Pika = Light (Kizaru's Fruit), source here) is the most reliable source possible.
When Queen charges his laser, there is SFx (sound effects) around him when he's charging up the laser (around most actions in the series).I'm confused about this hard to figure out what you mean
Oh I don't read the manga so I didn't know where ピカ or pika came from... that actually would mean its the same laser as kizaru'sWhen Queen charges his laser, there is SFx (sound effects) around him when he's charging up the laser (around most actions in the series).
Those specific SFx are ピカ, which mean Pika. Pika means light, and it's the origin of Kizaru's fruit (Pika Pika no Mi).
It's also what's used with Kizaru's flashes and lasers throughout the series.
That's the point of the thread.that actually would mean its the same laser as kizaru's
Yee just was confusing the way you worded everythingThat's the point of the thread.
Queen's Lasers = Pacifista's Lasers = Kizaru's Lasers
WithBasically, Vegapunk's the only person with laser tech.
Basically, Vegapunk's the only person to manufacture laser tech from scratch, and everybody else who made it basically replicated it off of Vegapunk, so anyone with laser tech (Franky) should get it.
But is there any reason why the others wouldn't be light speed? it should all be light speed... Nothing in the series pictures it to be not light speed like the rest if it's called a laser or moves in a straight path should be kinda automatically be light speed since other lasers are stated to move at the speed of lightDDM, Elizhaa, and Damage all agreed with Franky and Kuma, so I'll add those.
Ichiji and Queen are still up for debate.
A lot of lasers in fiction don't have lightspeed statements, but since they fulfill requirements, it wouldn't matter. We don't need an exact statement for everything if it can be proven with alternative evidence.Ichiji I'm still not certain about either way. While it's possible his attack is lightspeed, I don't think it has been called as such in the Databook unlike Niji who was specified to have a lightspeed attack.
We know, and it's possible that they're made out of light and are lightspeed.It is possible that his projectiles are made out of light but aren't necessarily lightspeed.
Kizaru is a whole ball of whack since we see 2 other techniques of his moving at lightspeed and are made out of the same light.Kizaru can make a sword entirely out of light, but the speed of his sword isn't derived from what it is made of (since it can held stationary) but it derived from Kizaru swinging it around like any other sword.
Ichiji has irl qualities of light and VSBW standards of light. It being a "likely" or "possibly" because it doesn't have an exact statement of lightspeed means that we should go to every page with "Speed of Light" without a lightspeed statement and add a likely because the author didn't confirm if it was lightspeed.So, similar to that, Ichiji could shoot out energy beams / light beams from his hands but to me, they aren't confirmed as being straightforward lightspeed yet.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion.Because of this, I'm more comfortable with listing him as having a Possibly/Likely Lightspeed attack instead of being fully lightspeed, though I understand why others would disagree.
Sorry for misinterpreting you (and if I got any kind of hostile), I thought you only agreed because it was possible that it was the same laser as the Pacifista's.Those are two requirements, yeah. That's why I said I was fine with Possibly/Likely Lightspeed. If those requirements didn't exist, then I obviously wouldn't be in favor of that much.
Sorry for misinterpreting you (and if I got any kind of hostile), I thought you only agreed because it was possible that it was the same laser as the Pacifista's.
Oh, my bad (again).I believe I was referring to Queen regarding that.
2/5, we need a few requirements for it to work, and 2 is goodIf Tempest is right and it comes back as the kanji for light, how many LS requirements would it fulfill?
I agree with this.That's not the same thing as a statement from a "reliable source".
It resembling the lasers from Franky & Kizaru is why I'd consider it for "possibly Lightspeed".
Wait for more people to see what they have or think? that databook still needs to be translated right?...What else needs to be tackled to see if this is completely declined or accepted?
GotchaI believe I was referring to Queen regarding that.
EDIT: Regarding Ichiji, I'll see what the translation request brings back.
Gotcha, thanksEDIT2: And bear in mind, I'm not trying to argue "No, I definitely think Ichiji's attack is below lightspeed", so don't think I'm trying to be overly harsh here.
We have not finished discussing Queen's and Ichiji's lasers and nobody has conceded on both ends.This should be closed.
That's not a reason to keep this open. You brought up why you want Likely removed in the OP and that was addressed. If threads stayed open until the poster conceded we would have a lot of open threads.We have not finished discussing Queen's and Ichiji's lasers and nobody has conceded on both ends.
Let me add on then.That's not a reason to keep this open. You brought up why you want Likely removed in the OP and that was addressed. If threads stayed open until the poster conceded we would have a lot of open threads.
Of course it is different if there is still meaningful discussion being had but it looks like at this point we're just waiting on material that may or may not come at anytime which is what new threads are for.
He would've had the same tech.Basically, Vegapunk's the only person to manufacture laser tech from scratch, and everybody else who made it basically replicated it off of Vegapunk, so anyone with laser tech should get it.
It was my understanding you are waiting for confirmation about this? If you can provide the material right now go for it. If you are waiting/hoping for it to come to you this should be closed.Queen's lasers show the light onomatopoeia and it's from a realistic source
It was my understanding you are waiting for confirmation about this? If you can provide the material right now go for it. If you are waiting/hoping for it to come to you this should be closed.
No because Ichiji doesn't charge up his laser like the others, he just shoots it out.Also if their is a "onomatopoeia" in every instance Kizaru's laser/replica is used then that counts as evidence against Ichi.
All the more reason it does not get a pass. it is too dissimilar and every LS feat was given such strictly because of the similarity, because it mimicks the other in form and execution.No because Ichiji doesn't charge up his laser like the others
Caesar Clown says that Vegapunk's the only person he knows who can make laser tech
Functions similarly to light beams
I already said why his lasers would be LS on this thread. It got "likely" for being similar.
It mainly got a pass because it was light and it was formed out of a technological source.All the more reason it does not get a pass. it is too dissimilar and every LS feat was given such strictly because of the similarity, because it mimicks the other in form and execution.
I already said why his lasers would be LS on this thread. It got "likely" for being similar.
Maybe you should wait for @CinCameron20 if you're not sure.It mainly got a pass because it was light and it was formed out of a technological source.
It literally says "his powers were supposed to be fire instead of light ones", which I addressed on the thread you just quoted me from.