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I've just remembered that East Blue Arc Luffy has no justifications on his profile at all for AP or durability. That's pretty bad that has lasted that long.
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It is strange you mention that because we don't even know if Luffy will beat Kaido.Calaca Vs said:This.Ercosore said:I personally think post time skip Luffy should only have 2 keys, one pre an post Katakuri fight, since that is the only moment post time skip that it was explicitly said that Luffy grew in power.
I think we'll need a separate key for Whole Cake and Wano. I'm pretty sure Luffy'll get a powerup to beat Kaido.
Seems to make sense.Ercosore said:I was actually thinking in upgrading East Blue arc Luffy and Zoro to High 8-C+, since both stopmed characters who have 6 tons of TNT+ feats, which is only 0.5 tons away from high 8-C+.
Which is why I brought up these calcs: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:CinCameron20/One_Piece_-_High_8-C_East_Blue_FeatsDamage3245 said:I've just remembered that East Blue Arc Luffy has no justifications on his profile at all for AP or durability. That's pretty bad that has lasted that long.
This is likely how things will turn out, and I still think Kaido will win. Somebody else like an Admiral, previous Whitebeard commanders, Blackbeard, Revolutionaries, or Shanks crew will have to get involved.Ercosore said:I would personally prefered if it was a group efford, like all the supernovas that are in wano against Kaido, but will have to wait and see.
In Thriller Bark, Franky's most notable strength feat is him and Heavy Point Chopper stunning Oars with a tag team punch. Now that I think about it, I don't know if Enies Lobby Franky and HP Chopper couldn't have done the same thing to Oars since Chopper was using his knowledge of the human body with that attack. And Franky had no feats against the Pacifista. If Zoro's statement is true, the strength increases the crew gets after each arc is a lot smaller than I thought.Cmue0312 said:Ok but how much stronger did they grow between Water 7/Enies Lobby and Thriller bark or Sabaody? It's not quantifiable unless he has a feat or he beats someone who has better feats then he did previously.
Zoro did say that everyone in the crew was slowly getting stronger, the crew do get more powerful each time but they don't instantly become 100x more powerful than before.RoronaRobin said:In Thriller Bark, Franky's most notable strength feat is him and Heavy Point Chopper stunning Oars with a tag team punch. Now that I think about it, I don't know if Enies Lobby Franky and HP Chopper couldn't have done the same thing to Oars since Chopper was using his knowledge of the human body with that attack. And Franky had no feats against the Pacifista. If Zoro's statement is true, the strength increases the crew gets after each arc is a lot smaller than I thought.
Maybe, i'm not certain.Js250476 said:Would Robin and Brook scale to Franky as well?
Just as I thought.Stefano4444 said:Zoro did say that everyone in the crew was slowly getting stronger, the crew do get more powerful each time but they don't instantly become 100x more powerful than before.
Which is proven by how a single Pacifista was able to put them in troubles when even New Word fodders, proving that for trully be able to be on the top in the New World, they needed to stop their journey and traning for extend period of time.
So unless there are clear jumps for power for a character, its feats can be used to scale previous versions of other characters, so yeah Franky's surviving the laboratory auto-destruction can be used to scale Enies Lobby Luffy.
What about the Reject Dial? It was accepted for what it sound like.Damage3245 said:Okay, but wouldn't that mean that Enel's physical stats would be scaled to Luffy? What else would they be scaled off?
I'm do not remember, but wasn't the 12.6 Kilotons calc come from the same Reject Dial used by Wiper again Enel?Damage3245 said:Doesn't the Reject Dial just multiply the force of what it absorbs by 10? What did it absorb prior to being used?
The comments below conferm that the calc come from the same Reject Dial used again Enel.Cmue0312 said:Wiper's Reject Dial (Re-calc): https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-bl...the-resultant-re-evaluations-one-piece.20582/ (12.6 Kilotons - 7-C)
So Enel used two attacks which means Zoro tanked one of them before getting beated by the second.Ercosore said:Mmm I am pretty sure you can only remain concsious for just a few seconds after a cardial arrest, I could be wrong though.
Regarding Sanji, considering that Zoro, a character that has always being depicted being close to Sanji, got k.o by attacks far weaker than El Thor, I think it would be fair to asume that Sanji surviving it was an outlier, unless you want to say that Sanji´s durability is higher than Zoro´s.
Edit: The two attacks that Enel used agaist Zoro
Yes Wiper and Gan Fall both state that a Reject Dial is 10x stronger than an Impact DialDamage3245 said:Doesn't the Reject Dial just multiply the force of what it absorbs by 10? What did it absorb prior to being used?