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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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Anyone know or calc about Dragon form of Kaido?
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calc? Dragon Form? Nah dawg
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Oh sorry I mean his Dragon size
its kinda big from perspective
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It's more or less about calcing the size of Kuri town.Oh sorry I mean his Dragon size
THEN use the panel where he's over it (but even then his body's always curled, so it's hard)
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.... Observe.
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GodlyCharmander
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Welp, don't click on it, just trust me on the px.
Onigashima's eye: 293px/863.28m
Kaido: 24+45+22+17+21+31+39+27+41+89+23+19+41+52 = 491px
Onigashima's eye: 293px/863.28m
Kaido: 24+45+22+17+21+31+39+27+41+89+23+19+41+52 = 491px
Kaido is 1.45km long.
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Welp, don't click on it, just trust me on the px.
Onigashima's eye: 293px/863.28m
Kaido: 24+45+22+17+21+31+39+27+41+89+23+19+41+52 = 491px
Kaido is 1.45km long.
Might be better to use Momo since Kaido and him are relative but he's not inflated which may effect his length.
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Would be interesting if we got an official length for Kaido's Dragon mode which we could use for scaling.
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Kaido's size is kinda inconsistent (as everything in OP), so it would be nice, yes.
And we might get a more solid estimation on Onigashima's size based on Kaido's size.
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Nah, just mostly the characters
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You can also see Kaidos head/mouth in that scan which you Could scale him from
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Though Momo is kind of curled too. Even more so than Kaido is in the sky, so it'd be a little harder with that.
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Question: If WB covered his face with armament Haki, much like Vergo, would Akainu still vaporize part of WB's head? Or would WB at the very least reduce the damage since Armament Haki has Heat Resistance? He blocked a Red Dog attack & knocked away Akainu with his Bisento without it ever melting meaning his haki is still good enough against Heat based attacks much like Shanks.
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Vergo, as well as Doffy, Katakuri- but yeah, he'd likely tank it. The only reason Akainu shaved half his head off is because he was already dying and it's very likely his spirit was getting weaker by then (Due to losing his son and choosing to die in that war)
He could barely use conqueror's at that point after the second heart attack, let alone armament strong enogh to fend off against Akainu.
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In his last attack his fist made direct contact with Akainu body to hit him(logia intagibility+observation haki), wouldn't that confirm he can still use armament even at the end? Also vengence is a good fuel for his spirit at that moment. I thought he didn't bother to block because he already knew he was gonna die & was reckless(Doffy mentions that fighting emocionally can effect your fighting for the worse against Law if i'm not mistaken); but what you said works too.
As for why he didn't use conquers, it's for the same reason why Sengoku didn't use it: They don't want to KO their own men. At least with the earthquakes, his pirate crew knows how to take cover(as Jimbei explained to Luffy). What's more curious is why didn't Doffy or Boa use it? They didn't care much of either side gets hurts. Before you bring up "not wanting to hurt Luffy for Boa", she saw how strong his will was firsthand & would've probably figured out he could tank it.
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I think most Hao users can direct their Haki towards their enemies
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High diff, but Kaidou canonically winsWhat diff do you guys think Big Mom gives to Kaido ?
He's blatantlys said to have the highest battle power of all the Yonko and strongest in a 1v1
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Kaido high diffs/Big Mom dies by using up her lifeforceWhat diff do you guys think Big Mom gives to Kaido ?
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I said this to someone else but works kinda for this situation
Question: Is it true that Akainu was supposed to die in Marinford but he was saved by the script or Oda changed his mind at the last minute?
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nah... I just think whitebeard isn't someone to kill someone or wasn't trying to kill
ever since the beginning whitebeard was holding back, he wanted to sacrifice himself for ace and the new generation... Once he saw ace get killed he got furious/serious and went for Akainu and quite easily took him out... I mean whitebeard saw akainu be alive while falling down even while he was furious he made his crew a chance to escape meaning he wasn't fully irrational
so basically whitebeard could've killed him if he wanted to but it would've probably risked his pirate crew because he was trying to let them escape
so basically
Whitebeard was trying to sacrifice himself and even getting hit to hit his opponent back so that his crew could get a chance to escape and so it'll be easier for whitebeard to land a hit.There is also kinda support to that via Whitebeard not caring or reacting and attacking back nearly instantly
Also it's haki vs haki so the One with the stronger haki in that moment will be able to utilize their devil fruit more if the other haki user wasn't strengthening his Armament haki much
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Well, he could likely use the baseline invisible armament like Luffy did vs Caesar, at best. Not the Koka for actual hardiness.
And no, Whitebeard was about to use Conqueror's when Ace was going to get executed, but had a heart attack and Luffy did it instead. I could be misremembering, but that's the general view of that instance because WB wouldn't have been able to reach them quick enough.
A lot of CoC users not using it in MF could be chalked up to just writing and plot convenience. Why didn't Luffy use it in the raid to thin down the numbers like he did in fishman island?
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I would say that's a testament of Akainu's durability(& maybe WB's nerfs).
Buggy D. Clown said he doesn't forgive people who he his crewmates, especially marines who he was destroying fodders left & right. Heck he wanted to bring their island down with him.The MonkeyOfTruth:
nah... I just think whitebeard isn't someone to kill someone or wasn't trying to kill
ever since the beginning whitebeard was holding back, he wanted to sacrifice himself for ace and the new generation... Once he saw ace get killed he got furious/serious and went for Akainu and quite easily took him out... I mean whitebeard saw akainu be alive while falling down even while he was furious he made his crew a chance to escape meaning he wasn't fully irrational
so basically whitebeard could've killed him if he wanted to but it would've probably risked his pirate crew because he was trying to let them escape
He thought Akainu was probably gonna die/get incappitacted anyway & he wasted almost all of his stamina with that last attack. His next atteck didn't damage Blackbeard & his crew that much. Even Burgess, someone below Ace, could continue fighting without any problem after that attack.
Nah, it wouldn't risked them that much. He aimed his last in the opposite direction where his crew was.
Agreedso basically
There is also kinda support to that via Whitebeard not caring or reacting and attacking back nearly instantly
Also it's haki vs haki so the One with the stronger haki in that moment will be able to utilize their devil fruit more if the other haki user wasn't strengthening his Armament haki much
Then again Doffy & Boa weren't that much involved in MF. I was guessing Kaido's fodders are stronger than Hody's. They're from pirate crews in the new world beaten by Kaido.
Examples? Besides focusing it in a specific object/person near them.Wrong, cause they can focus it
He tried to use it but his health stopped him
Did he really? In the anime he just tried to get closer to Ace?
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Would be inconsistent with the fact that he still KO'd a lot of smile users and waiters in kuri town AND in Udon, though. If not the gifters, he could've lessened the numbers by thousands if he KO'd Waiters and SMILEs only.
But yeah, Doffy was just having fun and Boa was there mostly because of Luffy.
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Off-topic, but- His injuries look so much worse in the colored version. Goddamn-Wrong, cause they can focus it
He tried to use it but his health stopped him
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Databook blue deep
Rayleigh says that with training you can focus it to specific people.
Luffy knocks out 50,000 enemies and doesn't touch his allies or the innocent bystanders.
screw the anime
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Wouldn't it makes sense for him to keep his toughest minions in his main base, Onigashima, than in the other regions? Yamato didn't use it either for that matter. There probably wasn't as much of a need when Luffy has way more numbers here by his side than in fishman island(
No one in Luffy's crew has a weak will, not even the weakest memebers Also i'm not seeing bystanders near the enemies he KOed.
This is perfect, thanks!
The same anime that made Oden conquerous coating much clear that the manga? The anime that confirmed that the lightning from Kaido & Big Mom's fight was from the storm not the Emperor's directly? Or the anime that gives us timeframes?
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To be fair, Oda is far more involved in the anime during WANO than any other arc.
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The Fake Straw Hats were closer to him than any civllian, there's no reason for him to spread any further so no bystanders would've gotten hurt anyway. But whatever, Tempest already convinced me with the Rayleigh scan
Really? Nice to hear. Any clue if he was involved with the Sabo flashback at the end of Dressrosa(anime exclusive)?
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Can't say for sure- I'll look it up in a bit. But A lot of channels I follow and an old twitter post made it very clear that a lot of the added scenes and certain moments adapted were going through Oda first.
And it was the first time i've seen it so all over, because Oda during.. Alabasta(?) said he has nothing to do with the anime. Don't know if the statement changed anywhere in between until wano, not counting the movies he wrote/designed for
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Think it was zou arc where he stated to be involved
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Could be. That's when the stuff tied to wano started rushing in after all.
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