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Somebody in the comments says the post was missing the "Seven Deadly Predators" 
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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DaMonkeMan
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Missing this weird bastard tooSomebody in the comments says the post was missing the "Seven Deadly Predators"
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Crazy how MeiMei445 ain't on there.Missing this weird bastard too
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Missing this weird bastard too
Bastolan27
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This isn't report-worthy. Like, why was this even reported? He's not doing anything harmful. If he were engaging in inappropriate behavior, it would be another matter, but he is not.
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Bruh, I guess the age down meme comments were not appreciated lol.
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Did they report Monke? Bruh.
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This is meant to be an all-ages appropriate community, when the fiction we're discussing permits it.
Don't be so overtly down bad about fictional characters, please.
Don't be so overtly down bad about fictional characters, please.
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Monke spoke without putting much thought into what he said
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Dawg that message
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Monke spoke without putting much thought into what he said
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I saw the RV thread, and yeah his comment was down atrocious and really sus, but I'm not too certain if it's ban worthy, more like warning worthy, but that's just me.
Bastolan27
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I don't think it's ban-worthy because that's a pretty common 'joke' in the JJK community. So, it was not done with inappropriate intent or anything.
DaMonkeMan
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Oh it's definitely not, I've seen worse even from staff but I won't get into that lol
I really don't care about the ban anyway because I don't put forums on a pedestal like that, it's just the internet.
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The age himself thing and doing Mei Mei? That's why they're contemplating (and likely going with) the ban.
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Pretty sure they did but they edited the stuff out so only staff can see it.
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Hope it's at least 40 mins long or something
Tho I think it's rumored to be 25 mins
Tho I think it's rumored to be 25 mins
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Soundtrack is fire
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Is this canon?
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It's also where he kills a dragon.Yes kinda, the character ryuma is canon to the manga one
EDIT:for some reason i could only see the text until i refreshed the page lmao.
I believe Ryuma's story was changed a bit for One piece with the major change being that he never left Wano.
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Chopper without his hat is the most disturbing part of that scene.
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Is Dura Neg = AP?
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Has AP
The Dura Neg properties of IJ doesn't have AP
Has AP
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So we can count Dura Neg = AP sometimes? I didnt know that. Since Dura Neg ignores the physical body i thought theres no way it could be AP
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You sure? Ain't that dura neg heat/electricity based?
Or how it functions
Is it maybe shockwaves?
Ohh it's Shockwave based... Then yee ap
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Some types of Dura Neg (like Puncture Wille and Luffy's Internal Damaging Haki) bypass the target's external durability so that their AP can hit the insides, as they're not strong enough to hurt their outsides. If the opponent has very durable insides, this type of dura neg won't work (Rokuogan vs Seraphim)
Other types (like Ifrit's heat or Brook's soul targeting attacks) are dura neg in a different way. They completely ignore the durability of the target, whether that be their internal or external durability. How durable you are doesn't change if you'd get burned or have your soul cut by an attack.
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That, or they just want to do a bunch more damage.
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Yup. Lucci was already able to damage Luffy on Enies Lobby, but he used Rokuogan on him to deal even more damage.
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I see thanks
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Long post warning, sorry.
There's a very interesting thing I've been thinking about. I feel like Ace might be able to beat Kizaru. Marineford Kizaru for sure, since he wasn't as strong. However, Kizaru in general is at a huge disadvantage.
I don't think he can coat light in Haki, and fire isn't weak to light, nor light to fire. They both have fairly similar fighting styles, centered around overwhelming their opponent with speed, range, and mobility, while also creating constructs, but there's an issue. Ace has better physical tactics, and Kizaru uses ranged attacks, so Ace's fighting style is more relevant here.
First off, there's the question of power. Kizaru could hold his own against G5 Luffy, albeit only though his hax abilities. I don't think Ace could beat Luffy. Now, here's the issue about Ace's power. The only feats we have are clashing with Whitebeard for a small amount of damage while he was Oldbeard, and before Ace joined the crew fully, fighting Blackbeard(nearly beating him, with Blackbeard winning because Ace let him get back up every time he went down, and because Ace had no prior knowledge, and without us seeing the end. For all we know, Ace wrecked his shit, then everyone else jumped him with Haki on.), fighting Aokiji and Akainu(After being imprisoned, barely fed or given water, kept in stamina-draining seastone cuffs, etc.), and even then, he lost because the guy with an elemental advantage targeted his brother(Akainu lost his arm, too, iirc, and idk why). I think they might be pretty even here, especially considering Kizaru was only fighting G5 with pretty much no Haki, and never fought Boundman, which should be superior to no-Haki G5 in terms of Anti-Logia AP, just off the fact that he has Haki on in that state.
Next up is speed. Kizaru fought G5 Luffy, and the speed he showed is pretty much the only reason he kept up. Ace easily intercepted Akainu's punch(while weakened, as I said before), and could accelerate enough to dodge out casual Oldbeard when he joined the crew a long time ago. I don't really see much of an advantage either way, and the only guy who directly upscales off Ace's feats is Sengoku iirc, but that doesn't mean anything in terms of scaling. Weakened Ace was also roughly comparable to Aokiji in speed with normal attacks, so Egghead Kizaru and him should be even at full power. However, Ace's normal attacks are all very much FTL, and Kizaru's ranged attacks are almost all LS or just a little FTL.
Now, we get to the LS conversation. Kizaru wins there.
Next up is Durability. I'll give Kizaru this one, but it shouldn't be that much different.
Stamina is here to save the day, woo-hoo. I'll give it to Kizaru, but it should be noted that Ace scaled off fighting Jinbe for 5 days in his first fight with Whitebeard, he did it 100 times, then he got even stronger.
Range! Ace has 10km, he wins.
Equipment: Den Den Mushi vs knife, pretty even, but the Den Den Mushi not being fireproof means Ace has better gear.
Buso: Kizaru
Kenbun: Ace is really good with it, and Kiz has no feats.
Hao: Ace
Experience: Kizaru has more, but Ace has been in more fights where he actually had to try.
Skill: Unknown, we can't really quantify either.
Intelligence: Kizaru.
Basically, I think this is a really close fight, but Ace has the advantage in terms of powers, and his Haoshoku would give him time to actually land a hit in the middle of the fight.
I don't think he can coat light in Haki, and fire isn't weak to light, nor light to fire. They both have fairly similar fighting styles, centered around overwhelming their opponent with speed, range, and mobility, while also creating constructs, but there's an issue. Ace has better physical tactics, and Kizaru uses ranged attacks, so Ace's fighting style is more relevant here.
First off, there's the question of power. Kizaru could hold his own against G5 Luffy, albeit only though his hax abilities. I don't think Ace could beat Luffy. Now, here's the issue about Ace's power. The only feats we have are clashing with Whitebeard for a small amount of damage while he was Oldbeard, and before Ace joined the crew fully, fighting Blackbeard(nearly beating him, with Blackbeard winning because Ace let him get back up every time he went down, and because Ace had no prior knowledge, and without us seeing the end. For all we know, Ace wrecked his shit, then everyone else jumped him with Haki on.), fighting Aokiji and Akainu(After being imprisoned, barely fed or given water, kept in stamina-draining seastone cuffs, etc.), and even then, he lost because the guy with an elemental advantage targeted his brother(Akainu lost his arm, too, iirc, and idk why). I think they might be pretty even here, especially considering Kizaru was only fighting G5 with pretty much no Haki, and never fought Boundman, which should be superior to no-Haki G5 in terms of Anti-Logia AP, just off the fact that he has Haki on in that state.
Next up is speed. Kizaru fought G5 Luffy, and the speed he showed is pretty much the only reason he kept up. Ace easily intercepted Akainu's punch(while weakened, as I said before), and could accelerate enough to dodge out casual Oldbeard when he joined the crew a long time ago. I don't really see much of an advantage either way, and the only guy who directly upscales off Ace's feats is Sengoku iirc, but that doesn't mean anything in terms of scaling. Weakened Ace was also roughly comparable to Aokiji in speed with normal attacks, so Egghead Kizaru and him should be even at full power. However, Ace's normal attacks are all very much FTL, and Kizaru's ranged attacks are almost all LS or just a little FTL.
Now, we get to the LS conversation. Kizaru wins there.
Next up is Durability. I'll give Kizaru this one, but it shouldn't be that much different.
Stamina is here to save the day, woo-hoo. I'll give it to Kizaru, but it should be noted that Ace scaled off fighting Jinbe for 5 days in his first fight with Whitebeard, he did it 100 times, then he got even stronger.
Range! Ace has 10km, he wins.
Equipment: Den Den Mushi vs knife, pretty even, but the Den Den Mushi not being fireproof means Ace has better gear.
Buso: Kizaru
Kenbun: Ace is really good with it, and Kiz has no feats.
Hao: Ace
Experience: Kizaru has more, but Ace has been in more fights where he actually had to try.
Skill: Unknown, we can't really quantify either.
Intelligence: Kizaru.
Basically, I think this is a really close fight, but Ace has the advantage in terms of powers, and his Haoshoku would give him time to actually land a hit in the middle of the fight.
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He can
You can fuse devil fruit abilities with haki, making them more powerful
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You can, but it doesn't have physical matter. He would have to condense it.
