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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Why wouldn't he put Haki on from the get go when he knows it's necessary to stop G4 from absolutely pulverizing his bones
Like yeah, maybe he saw Luffy stretch his legs and then he applied Haki to his face, but it's much more likely that he just did it preemptively knowing Luffy would attack again.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
So you just showed every time he barely reacted to luffy's causal speed compared to luffy when he's actually moving his fasted
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Baseless assertion that luffy wasn't moving at his fastest during all instances I showed, your only saying this because it fits your agenda...
MonkeyOfLife said:
, doffy could see luffy fly and after luffy becomes a blur, same shit as this
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The difference is that dofflamingo actually reacted while Blueno got blitzed? Maybe if he blocked with tekkai this would be a good comparison
MonkeyOfLife said:
What you going to say it didn't blitz because he "reacted" from afar to escape?
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Well no because in one instance dofflaming is reacting to luffy at a close range while in this instance he is simply slipping into his pocket dimension which is significantly easier than actually reacting to the attack...
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Why wouldn't he put Haki on from the get go when he knows it's necessary to stop G4 from absolutely pulverizing his bones
Like yeah, maybe he saw Luffy stretch his legs and then he applied Haki to his face, but it's much more likely that he just did it preemptively knowing Luffy would attack again.
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No he only applied haki to the side of his face, if he wanted to protect himself without knowing where luffy was going to attack he would've used full body haki...
 
ZKillerz said:
Well no because in one instance dofflaming is reacting to luffy at a close range while in this instance he is simply slipping into his pocket dimension which is significantly easier than actually reacting to the attack...
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That is "reacting"... Same shit as the armament Haki one you mentioned

ZKillerz said:
Baseless assertion that luffy wasn't moving at his fastest during all instances I showed, your only saying this because it fits your agenda...
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I don't give an f about my agendas, I care about the truth

You are literally the one nitpicking the actual situation of the fight, showing doffy barely reacting to casual gear 4th speed to then say luffy isn't blitz levels above
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
That is "reacting"... Same shit as the armament Haki one you mentioned
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Yeah its reacting just significantly less impressive than the instances I'm referring to.
MonkeyOfLife said:
I don't give an f about my agendas, I care about the truth
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cool 🗿
MonkeyOfLife said:
You are literally the one nitpicking the actual situation of the fight
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How
MonkeyOfLife said:
showing doffy barely reacting to casual gear 4th speed
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Again you keep saying "casual gear 4th speed" without justification, why would luffy only be casual against dofflamingo?
MonkeyOfLife said:
to then say luffy isn't blitz levels above
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Because in order to say someone is a blitz tier above you actually have to prove he can consistently blitz his opponent?
 
Like, we literally already discussed this shit about gear 4th luffy vs Doffy's speed... I ain't going to waste my time on shit that with context you can see how doffy could still try to keep up against gear 4th
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Because it literally blatantly showed him blitz? The f? Something his casual flying speed didn't do
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The key word here is consistently
Characters relative in speed can tag each other in fights. Luffy landing attacks Isn't sufficient evidence that he's consistently a blitz tier above.
 
ZKillerz said:
Thats fine I dont necessarily disagree
I still dont see how this proves he'll be a blitz lvl faster tho. Unless your just assuming he wasn't using observation haki before
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that without obs Haki, gear 4th's speed is blitz levels above... The scan of luffy's Rhino Schneider is luffy completely blitzing Doffy's speed, his obs Haki is the only thing that allowed him to be able to keep up there (putting arm haki on before the impact)

The other instances the same way, barely keeping up via utilizing his strings aoe and obs Haki from afar

Not trying to explain every page one by one
 
Darkvie123 said:
Im confused with the heat scaling. Is Sanjis IJ > Akainu's Magma?
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Since no one answered this, no, Sanji scales above Akainu's heat aura but not the magma itself.

It's kinda hard to compare tho as Akainu is way above his own aura for sure but everyone he burned so far only scales to his aura, meanwhile Sanji burns people who have some heat scaling on top of his aura, kinda like:

Magma Aura <<<< Magma attacks
Magma Aura < X < Y < Z < Sanji
 
Darkvie123 said:
He would beat Base Kaido he has one shot potential
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Base Kaido is trash, yeah, so I don't get why you're comparing him and Sickbeard, at least use Hybrid Kaido.

Tho we didn't get to see Base Kaido using his full haki so he could have done better than what we saw.
 
XDragnoir said:
Base Kaido is trash, yeah, so I don't get why you're comparing him and Sickbeard, at least use Hybrid Kaido.

Tho we didn't get to see Base Kaido using his full haki so he could have done better than what we saw.
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I had a debate with some ppl and they said Sickbeard would body Base Kaido bc he bodied Akainu who Akainu is stronger than Rooftop Novas who did Base Kaidou dirty. They made sense ngl
 
Didn't Doffy need his Awakening to even survive against Luffy?

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