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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

^This man is the kind of guy who'd unironically create a Unabomber profile on VS battle wiki.

Also, on this note, I was thinking about some scaling for my thread.

Would y'all say the gap between base w/Haki Luffy and G4 Luffy during the Katakuri fight was significantly smaller than the gap between Dressrosa base Luffy w/Haki and G4 Luffy?

I kind of thought not at first, but then I remembered that base Katakuri > base Cracker, who sliced into G4's arm.
 
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^This man is the kind of guy who'd unironically create a Unabomber profile on VS battle wiki.
Nah, he blamed tech for stuff corporations did with tech.
Also, on this note, I was thinking about some scaling for my thread.

Would y'all say the gap between base w/Haki Luffy and G4 Luffy during the Katakuri fight was significantly smaller than the gap between Dressrosa base Luffy w/Haki and G4 Luffy?

I kind of thought not at first, but then I remembered that base Katakuri > base Cracker, who sliced into G4's arm.
Luffy's Haki could reasonably be considered stronger, so the gap would likely be smaller.
 
Would y'all say the gap between base w/Haki Luffy and G4 Luffy during the Katakuri fight was significantly smaller than the gap between Dressrosa base Luffy w/Haki and G4 Luffy?
It's the same Amp I would say, gear 4th's Haki broke the strings while base haki couldn't against doffy... in whole cake luffy's base was inferior to kata's edged mochi but gear 4th is superior to that, and kata's power mochi (Similar to gear 4th, Haki combined with devil fruit) is equally or superior to gear 4th's haki

Gear 4th is both a haki and devil fruit/stat amp, so it would always be the same Amp like gear 2nd to base always being the same
 
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Would y'all say the gap between base w/Haki Luffy and G4 Luffy during the Katakuri fight was significantly smaller than the gap between Dressrosa base Luffy w/Haki and G4 Luffy?
No I just think the gap is overexaggerated. If you look at the fights the only drastic difference between base w/haki and g4 is in strength (ie luffy sending dofflamingo and katakuri flying)

His speed isn't a blitz tier above, neither is his durability a one-shot lvl higher.
I kind of thought not at first, but then I remembered that base Katakuri > base Cracker, who sliced into G4's arm.
I think if katakuri used a piercing weapon he could accomplish the same thing.
 
His speed isn't a blitz tier above, neither is his durability a one-shot lvl higher.
It is
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And the same ones who punctured base luffy (or even stronger ones), easily got overpowered in gear 4th
 
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Nitpicking a single feat and not showing the next panel where dofflamingo reacts with his armament haki....
Or the previous page where dofflamingo reacts to the initial kong gun and protects himself...

Look at the entire fight and you'll see a consistency of dofflamingo reacting to him

And the same ones who punctured base luffy (or even stronger ones), easily got overpowered in gear 4th
1. I already said there is a huge gap in strength so Idk what this is supposed to prove
2. luffy needed king kong gun to overpower this technique which is his strongest gear 4 attack...

So yeah not a one shot lvl above nor is he a blitz tier above...
 
No I just think the gap is overexaggerated. If you look at the fights the only drastic difference between base w/haki and g4 is in strength (ie luffy sending dofflamingo and katakuri flying)

His speed isn't a blitz tier above, neither is his durability a one-shot lvl higher.

I think if katakuri used a piercing weapon he could accomplish the same thing.
Also something I would like to add is that luffy's rubbery resistance is also drastically higher with g4 so unless you have better haki he could probably just bounce off of anything you throw at him.
 
Nitpicking a single feat and not showing the next panel where dofflamingo reacts with his armament haki....
Or the previous page where dofflamingo reacts to the initial kong gun and protects himself...

Look at the entire fight and you'll see a consistency of dofflamingo reacting to him
he was barely reacting to gear 4th's casual speed, the moment luffy flew fast af to the side is his movement speed blitzing him

He only could keep up from a far with his awakening, the only other time is luffy letting him hit him one time

Already looked at the whole fight, it's you who should look and analyze that shit
1. I already said there is a huge gap in strength so Idk what this is supposed to prove
2. luffy needed king kong gun to overpower this technique which is his strongest gear 4 attack...
He easily tanked the attack and overpowered it, wtf you on about... That's still durability

So yeah not a one shot lvl above nor is he a blitz tier above...
It is


Ohh and him putting arm haki doesn't disprove that it blitzed him, he still has observation haki and putting haki on is basically instant
 
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Ok lets review all the times dofflamingo reacted to luffy during their fight

Fight starts and Dofflamingo is right in front of luffy
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Luffy then dashes at him and dofflamingo blocks the punch
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Kind of weird that dofflamingo can react to someone who's supposed to be a blitz tier faster 🗿 Maybe we should keep on reading...

Luffy then blitzes behind dofflamingo and again he reacts to him by covering the side of his face in armament haki...
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Luffy then dashes towards dofflamingo a 3rd time and he still reacts to him by dodging his punch...
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This is the 3rd time Dofflamingo clearly reacts to someone who is supposedly a blitz tier faster than himself

Dofflamingo after taking a multitude of attacks while already being severely fatigued reacts to luffy's point blank bazooka and attempts to defend himself..
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Idk how anyone can read this fight and come out with the impression that luffy is a blitz tier faster in gear 4 💀
 
he was barely reacting to gear 4th's casual speed, the moment luffy flew fast af to the side is his movement speed blitzing him
Idk why your trying to act like luffy outpacing him changes the fact dofflamingo can still react to him...
He only could keep up from a far with his awakening
Not only from a far but also up close...
the only other time is luffy letting him hit him one time
Irrelevant to my point
Already looked at the whole fight, it's you who should look and analyze that shit
Nope you clearly didn't read the same thing I did
He easily tanked the attack and overpowered it, wtf you on about... That's still durability
He easily overpowers the attack sure, but the point is that he needed to use a higher level of gear 4 in order to do so....
No it isn't
Ohh and him putting arm haki doesn't disprove that it blitzed him
Quite literally does
he still has observation haki and putting haki on is basically instant
This doesn't disprove that he reacted to luffy....
 
Ok lets review all the times dofflamingo reacted to luffy during their fight

Fight starts and Dofflamingo is right in front of luffy
qf4tXrc.png

Luffy then dashes at him and dofflamingo blocks the punch
B64ws1d.png
uhQdQjC.png

Kind of weird that dofflamingo can react to someone who's supposed to be a blitz tier faster 🗿 Maybe we should keep on reading...

Luffy then blitzes behind dofflamingo and again he reacts to him by covering the side of his face in armament haki...
NUO1J4p.png


Luffy then dashes towards dofflamingo a 3rd time and he still reacts to him by dodging his punch...
NczFguP.png


8W8uFvG.png


This is the 3rd time Dofflamingo clearly reacts to someone who is supposedly a blitz tier faster than himself

Dofflamingo after taking a multitude of attacks while already being severely fatigued reacts to luffy's point blank bazooka and attempts to defend himself..
AOix61f.png
2m6wDJF.png


Idk how anyone can read this fight and come out with the impression that luffy is a blitz tier faster in gear 4 💀
So you just showed every time he barely reacted to luffy's causal speed compared to luffy when he's actually moving his fasted, doffy could see luffy fly and then after luffy becomes a blur, it's the same shit as this
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Or what you going to say this didn't blitz because he "reacted" from afar to escape?
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