One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

[DaMonkeMan]

He doesn't need to charge the lasers when he's spamming them.

Also, that's not happening. Queen literally has 5 limbs and would simply be able to defend against them like the Scabbards did, who are far inferior to Queen.

I don't understand if you're just slandering Queen or just don't understand his abilities and where he scales because this is insane to me.

Limbs that ultimately do nothing because Aramaki can make as many plants as he wants to counter them?
Yeah.
Also, yes he does, he always need to charge them.
It's just that he can spam them after they're done charging.

 

[Kachon123]

Limbs that ultimately do nothing because Aramaki can make as many plants as he wants to counter them?

Which again, Aramaki won't be able to due to Queen's laser spam. There's also King literally right there.

Also due to Queen being faster than Aramaki, the number of vines don't matter as Queen would be able to counter either way.

Also with that logic, Aramaki would have been able to instantly kill the Scabbards by spawning hundreds of vines, which he didn't do.

Also, yes he does, he always need to charge them.
It's just that he can spam them after they're done charging.

This is false.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Also due to Queen being faster than Aramaki,

We can stop right here.

 

[Kachon123]

We can stop right here.

?

 

[Ped2018]

?

Explain yourself, filthy criminal

 

[Kachon123]

Explain yourself, filthy criminal

He scales higher in speed, simple as that. I'm not sure what you'd like me to explain.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Queen isn't faster than Aramaki lmao

 

[Kachon123]

Queen isn't faster than Aramaki lmao

Based on?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Based on?

 

[SlendVeny]

It's not an immunity, it's protection.

I promise you that's exactly the same thing in this context.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Nah, found it here:

I genuinely don't know who a good portion of the people on this list are or where they go so this was a little hard (and I was going to put Chopper above Drake and below Jack for his feats against Queen but I wasn't sure about it) but it's something I guess.
I couldn't get the link to the original tier list so I found another one.

 

[SlendVeny]

I accidentally started an argument with a Katakuri fan on Fandom again, I really don't want to have to explain Katakuri vs Queen again.

 

[ZKillerz]

Laser spam should be effective against aramaki due to heat scaling
King also has heat based attacks that should probably burn aramaki aswell

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

MOL ass comment

How... That was like nothing like me besides using...

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

...

Mmm maybe kinda this

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

That doesn't stop him from just removing the oxygen from the air tho-

The gas that removed the oxygen area will get negeted/protected... As in the haki aura will stop him from removing the oxygen in the first place

Like how the haki aura of kaido stops law from affecting space/teleporting him

not that hard to understand

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I accidentally started an argument with a Katakuri fan on Fandom again, I really don't want to have to explain Katakuri vs Queen again.

Katakuri destroys

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Katakuri destroys

Is this mf serious
Am I reading this right

 

[ZKillerz]

Katakuri destroys

In twopiece sure

 

[ZKillerz]

Have yall been over the ichiji outrunning his lasers feat? Is there a reason he's not listed as ftl for that?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Is this mf serious
Am I reading this right

Stronger haki, insane evasion + obs haki, speed amps and has environment control... All queen has is physical stats (which still is bs because power cliffing/creep or whatever it's called )

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Have yall been over the ichiji outrunning his lasers feat? Is there a reason he's not listed as ftl for that?

First needs to be accepted as light speed? Otherwise not sure

likely Speed of Light movement and attack with Sparking Valkyrie (Functions similarly to light beams)

Tho this is in his justification

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Stronger haki, insane evasion + obs haki, speed amps and has environment control... All queen has is physical stats (which still is bs because power cliffing/creep or whatever it's called )

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Will Smith.

 

[SlendVeny]

Will Smith.

Agree fra

 

[XDragnoir]

Limbs that ultimately do nothing because Aramaki can make as many plants as he wants to counter them?
Yeah.
Also, yes he does, he always need to charge them.
It's just that he can spam them after they're done charging.

You're forgetting Queen can become invisible and Aramaki's Kenbu level is a complete mystery, so we can't say he'd sense Queen.

But other than that, Queen wouldn't be more than a nuisance and would at best help King in some situations.

 

[Damage3245]

You're forgetting Queen can become invisible and Aramaki's Kenbu level is a complete mystery, so we can't say he'd sense Queen.

But other than that, Queen wouldn't be more than a nuisance and would at best help King in some situations.

Queen is a huge target so Aramaki would just need to spread his branches out to find him.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

You're forgetting Queen can become invisible and Aramaki's Kenbu level is a complete mystery, so we can't say he'd sense Queen.

But other than that, Queen wouldn't be more than a nuisance and would at best help King in some situations.

What is Queen gonna do after turning invisible?
He can't hurt him and the lasers would be annoying but Aramaki has regen as well as the ability to transfer to any plant near him, so it's not a huge problem.
Eventually Queen's just gonna do something stupid and then get hit by a branch and sucked up.
King COULD win, if he stayed in the air and spammed various attacks and what not, but I kind of doubt it.
We have to keep in mind Aramaki still hasn't gone all out on screen yet, and he was able to capture Weevil and subdue Momo and the Scabbards despite that.
Same Scabbards are above at least one of these opponents (Queen) judging by the fact that just one of them beat the shit out of Jack in Sulong.

 

[Kachon123]

This isn't proving anything?

Queen already scales far above these people in speed.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

This isn't proving anything?

Queen already scales far above these people in speed.

I mean, if you want to believe that, then sure.

 

[Kachon123]

I mean, if you want to believe that, then sure.

It's not about whether I believe it or not. It's about reading the series and the profiles lmao

 

[DaMonkeMan]

It's not about whether I believe it or not. It's about reading the series and the profiles lmao

I know.
I read the series and profiles and the Scabbards are faster than Queen.
I'm really sorry if you don't like it and believe otherwise but that's just how it is man.

 

[Eseseso]

I know.
I read the series and profiles and the Scabbards are faster than Queen.
I'm really sorry if you don't like it and believe otherwise but that's just how it is man.

Not true.

Queen in Base fought the Scabbards back when he was younger and weaker, and his Zoan form can react to Luffy and Zoro.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Not true.

Queen in Base fought the Scabbards back when he was younger and weaker, and his Zoan form can react to Luffy and Zoro.

The Scabbards were also younger and weaker lol
When did his Zoan form react to Luffy and Zoro?

 

[Eseseso]

The Scabbards were also younger and weaker lol

Not all of them.

When did his Zoan form react to Luffy and Zoro?

When they were trying to go to the roof and his Zoan form grabbed them and restrained them.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

If former Admiral Wuzan was in Wano he would've flash frozen the Least Pirates and the scrubards in a single move .

Greenbull needs to get in his level ong, making the admrials look bad.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

When they were trying to go to the roof and his Zoan form grabbed them and restrained them.

Iirc that was a sneak attack.

 

[Kachon123]

I know.
I read the series and profiles and the Scabbards are faster than Queen.
I'm really sorry if you don't like it and believe otherwise but that's just how it is man.

Dude


Scabbards ~< Kaifu < Base Wano to Rooftop Zoro ~ X Drake < Early Wano Sanji < Any form of Queen

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Dude


Scabbards ~< Kaifu

They couldn't ******* see it
Do you put Absalom over Doffy?

X Drake < Early Wano Sanji < Any form of Queen

Why.

 

[Kachon123]

Why.

Read the profiles.

They couldn't ******* see it
Do you put Absalom over Doffy?

Apparently Kaifu isn't actually invisible. It's just an air slash according to the Japanese Raws.