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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

It's actually crazy how we still don't know who Luffy's mother is (and no, stop saying Croc). Like do y'all think Oda will actually show us one day?
 
we've seen everyone's mother at this point, so i doubt its a case "too irrelevant to introduce"
 
One of the most cursed anime image I've seen 🙉
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2. Queen fought and survived against a Yonko in a 1v1.
Moria fought and survived against a Yonko.
Lucci fought and survived against a Yonko.
Etc.
Fighting a Yonko doesn't mean shit, you gotta actually do good, look at Yamato and Marco for example.
 
king vs sanji but they cant use anything related to their special bodies (no exoskeleton or imperial flames)
King, easily.

Still has incredible durability, especially with his Zoan form.

Sanji's flames won't dura neg since King's heat resistance scales to his own flames, not to mention that Queen implied that King could endure Sanji's Diable Jambe.

Has far higher AP, which he can still amp.

Has his Pride Stake, which one-shots.

Better Buso Haki.

He takes this mid-diff. At most.
 
Fighting side-by-side and doing no damage to the Seraphim with his "G5 Level AP"
Lmfao.
The Seraphim are tanks who even Luffy and Zoro can't hurt.

Not sure what your point is.

Lucci and Kaku fought them off-screen alongside Luffy and Zoro.

We see Kaku clashing evenly with S-Hawk and even made him dodge an Amane Dachi (probably wouldn't have done shit to S-Hawk but still means S-Hawk viewed his attacks as powerful and likely hard to block).
 
King, easily.

Still has incredible durability, especially with his Zoan form.

Sanji's flames won't dura neg since King's heat resistance scales to his own flames, not to mention that Queen implied that King could endure Sanji's Diable Jambe.

Has far higher AP, which he can still amp.

Has his Pride Stake, which one-shots.

Better Buso Haki.

He takes this mid-diff. At most.
true
and king doesnt even need pride stake, his normal zoan can split sanji in half
 
The Seraphim are tanks who even Luffy and Zoro can't hurt.

Not sure what your point is.

Lucci and Kaku fought them off-screen alongside Luffy and Zoro.

We see Kaku clashing evenly with S-Hawk and even made him dodge an Amane Dachi (probably wouldn't have done shit to S-Hawk but still means S-Hawk viewed his attacks as powerful and likely hard to block).
ACoC Zoro was implied to be capable of injuring King.
Lucci, who's supposedly equal to Buso-amped G5, can't even dent them.
I wonder why that is.
 
zoro also said its pointless to attack while the flames are on
idk why people cling to "zoro scared king"
Because we never saw what would happen if KOH Zoro actually attacked King with his flame's on, and King himself with his flames on was dodging and blocking his attacks which Zoro even called him out for. I don't think it's a coincidence we never saw it happen and that even currently Zoro isn't using anything more than buso on the seraphim.
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Zoro wasn't sure if he could hurt flame on King, this doesn't mean he couldn't, he just wasn't sure.
Even then, King got scared and even backed away when using his final attack, and went from tanking attacks to blocking and dodging.
Ahh, Emin ninjaed me
 
Also, just a reminder
Awakened Lucci = G5 no hao Luffy
For you argument to make sense, Lucci would have to be in his awakened form when he did no damage, and Zoro would actually have to be shown damaging the seraphims
 
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