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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Tbh, the gap between a YC1 and YC2 is vastly smaller than between a YC2 and a YC3.

1. Queen and King are consistently shown as comparable, albeit with King being shown as superior every time (even Queen implies his own inferiority to King by calling him a "monster").

2. Queen fought and survived against a Yonko in a 1v1. He needed some favorable circumstances, but he still took hits from her with only moderate injury and hurt her to some extent. He also took hits from a YC1 and was viewed as tough by the same YC1 (Marco).

3. Other YC2 people like Ace and Jozu can throw hands with Admirals.

4. Even when Queen was younger, in just his base with a flaming stick he was throwing hands with the Scabbards, some of whom aren't much stronger than 20 years earlier due to having gone 20 years to the future.

Lucky Roux:

Also, the fact that you thought of Buu first means you skipped the ideal reference, and thus haven't seen Ben 10, making you a nerd.
Ben 10 was my childhood. I just forgot about cannonbolt, is all.
 
Tbh, the gap between a YC1 and YC2 is vastly smaller than between a YC2 and a YC3.

1. Queen and King are consistently shown as comparable, albeit with King being shown as superior every time (even Queen implies his own inferiority to King by calling him a "monster").
Base King > Full Zoan Marco
Zoan Queen needed his mouth gun to damage casual Full Zoan Marco
2. Queen fought and survived against a Yonko in a 1v1. He needed some favorable circumstances, but he still took hits from her with only moderate injury and hurt her to some extent.
"Some" is doing heavy lifting
3. Other YC2 people like Ace and Jozu can throw hands with Admirals.
WB crew is just them

Ben 10 was my childhood. I just forgot about cannonbolt, is all.
Cannonbolt is the reason you have freedom, don't slip up again.
 
Ace respectfully
Tbh you can make an argument for either, it just depends on if you think Lucci's Haki is good enough to bypass Ace's Logia.
Yeah, but at least Lucci has a wincon in Rokugan, since we don't know if King has the internal damage resistance of the Seraphim.

And Lucci is likely somewhat faster. His normal awakened downscales from G5, who scales above Thunder Bagua, while his Awakened Kami-Sori flat-out dodged a point-blank chomp from G5.

Awakened Lucci w/Kamisori is one of the 10 fastest people in OP right now, lol.
 
That doesn't mean we shouldn't scale them though. Their durability is still their durability, it's not like having regeneration makes them LESS durable.

It's just that in a more narrative sense, it makes sense why authors would put characters with regen in situations where they will...actually have to use it, lol.
Smells like a Biatch!
 
Ya'll think this guy would be even an okay match for Luffy?
 
Cooler flames
At least you admit it.
Slower
Needs to pick between durable or fast
I mean, even his no-flame self is really durable, it's just that Zoro's AP was through the roof.

His no-flame Base couldn't be pierced by Greenbull's buso vines, and his Zoan form's durability scales above his Zoan AP and likely scales to his Imperial Pride Stake's AP, since both times he used that attack were with flames off so he would've needed to endure the force of that attack.
Worse regen
Does King even have regen?
Worse stamina
Debateable.
Shit, you're not wrong.

Plot Induced Stupidity is a bitch.
 
Does King even have regen?
fetchimage
 
I mean, even his no-flame self is really durable, it's just that Zoro's AP was through the roof.

His no-flame Base couldn't be pierced by Greenbull's buso vines, and his Zoan form's durability scales above his Zoan AP and likely scales to his Imperial Pride Stake's AP, since both times he used that attack were with flames off so he would've needed to endure the force of that attack.
Sanji scale above those.
Does King even have regen?
Yeah
 
Ya'll think this guy would be even an okay match for Luffy?
Warcraft = eww 😴
 
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