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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

XDragnoir said:
That's still an ass pull, he went from no Haoshoku to Advanced Haoshoku in 1 arc.
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Well thats fine if u feel that way.
Spoilers ahead for anime watchers.
But that's the point of Enma, it makes the person to release his ryou and even king's haki (when he fought king zoro said that enma wants even more power which is King's haki so enma is a tool that controls ur haki aura so it makes the person to control his aura in a sense just like how a normal person who controls his haki aura like luffy) zoro trained with enma for days before he went to onigashima.
(edit) also we all know that zoro sooner or later will have king's haki
 
A character can be born with Conqueror's Haki but it cant be obtained with training so its decided by fate.
so yeah Zoro already has Conqueror's Haki but enma helped him to release it.
and also Conqueror's Haki can be strengthen with how much will power you have and fighting powerful enemies.
 
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Tbf it's not like Zoro just figured out the inner workings of Conqueror's (as far as I know), he's basically doing what Kefla did against UI Goku and just releasing all of his power out explosively, which causes him to exert his conqueror's as well.
 
Hmm... The great dragon shock has never really been explained 🤔, we know it's not haki

Wait... Maybe it actually could be haki and it's referring to not using haki as in slicing her? 🤔

Also didn't the wood admiral act like monet when shanks used con haki? Or no?
 
Eminiteable said:
Haoshoku Haki is tied to the strength of the user's spirit, it doesn't matter when it's first unlocked for the user to be able to infuse it only on how strong the character is.
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?

The strength of one's haoshoku is related to one's spirit, their ability to use it to coat their weapons isn't, it's a matter of knowing how to control their Hao and Zoro didn't know, he hadn't even unlocked it yet.


Aerozz said:
Well thats fine if u feel that way.
Spoilers ahead for anime watchers.
But that's the point of Enma, it makes the person to release his ryou and even king's haki (when he fought king zoro said that enma wants even more power which is King's haki so enma is a tool that controls ur haki aura so it makes the person to control his aura in a sense just like how a normal person who controls his haki aura like luffy) zoro trained with enma for days before he went to onigashima.
(edit) also we all know that zoro sooner or later will have king's haki
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Also, i obviously know about the "Enma was sucking his haki and his hao" point, but he coated all 3 swords, that's why it's bs to me.

If he had coated only Enma? Makes sense, he doesn't know how to control it and had it forcefully drawn out, so it will cover only Enma, but no, he had just unlocked it and still knew he
 
XDragnoir said:
The strength of one's haoshoku is related to one's spirit, their ability to use it to coat their weapons isn't, it's a matter of knowing how to control their Hao and Zoro didn't know, he hadn't even unlocked it yet.
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The only statement on the ability to use it to coat their weapons is "Only a handful of the very strongest can". Just knowing how wouldn't grant that which is why Kaidou says Luffy wouldn't be able (he was able to as his haki bloomed as indicated by the Hyogoro flashback).
 
@XDragnoir
well i understand ur logic.
But when Enma sucks Zoro's haki/ryou to the point it made King's haki out then that means its out which means he can do it with his other swords haki isnt just going to one specific sword it will be controllable thats why zoro trained with enma for days.
its like shusui where it sucked the other swords flying slash attack.
and also thats why Oden gave kaido the X scar coz with Enma haki can be transferred with other swords.
the good part is no one can control Enma except Oden and Zoro so this sword isnt easy to use aka it make sense to me.
 
Eseseso said:
Rayleigh just built different.

And if Stampede is any indication, Roger is far above him since he stomped Bullet who was stronger than Rayleigh.
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I'm pretty sure this is simple hearsay from Buggy, also wasn't it about him being equal to Rayleigh?
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Make a crt lol

Scaling wise World > Gear 2nd Luffy with Haki (pre RPL) > 217.14 Megatons

World w/DF is 100x > 217.14 Megatons (21.714 Gigatons)

Gear 2nd Luffy with Haki (Post RPL) ~ World w/DF + Haki > World w/DF > 21.714 Gigatons.
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100 time speed multiplier
 
I find it hilarious that BB turned down Bonney and said that she is too weak for his crew but would be a fine wife, while he let Doc Q in and offered Moria a spot in the crew.

Edit: Come to think of it, shouldn't she be H6A for hurting him with a kick?
I think she also did that to Luffy but I'm on the fence about that one..
 
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Eseseso said:
When did she hurt Luffy?
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Fireld said:
This is Mr. White that we're talking about so I don't think it's that bad imo.

oof

CH1063?
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Arguably an outlier.
 
Hey guys i wanna do a calc on law's attack (the awakening attack on Big mom) should i do it here or in other place if so can u tell me how to do it thanks.
(edit) Nvm i think i found it.
 
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SnookB said:
Bonney kicking Luffy isn't a feat. There's no visible damage, and him holding his face is probably because of surprise at being stopped than actually hurting. Let's not get TOO nuts-
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That and she doesn’t have Haki that is needed to bypass Luffy’s blunt force resistance iirc
 
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