• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

was it all based on the scaling done in the Wano revisions? or was it done on the general thread I don't even remember.
Same scaling chain as wano, yeah

Shiki a paramecia
WB's the strongest paramecia so he scales over it
Akainu strongest devil fruit offense so he scales over WB>Shiki
All the Yonkos relative
Luffy's Bajrang Gun scales x4 the value for the compression added multiplier
 
Same scaling chain as wano, yeah

Shiki a paramecia
WB's the strongest paramecia so he scales over it
Akainu strongest devil fruit offense so he scales over WB>Shiki
All the Yonkos relative
Luffy's Bajrang Gun scales x4 the value for the compression added multiplier
and then everyone else downscales off of that. yeah I remember now.
 
So I understand why Yonkos and Admirals scale to the nerfed Shiki's feat...

But why we scaling Yonko Commanders above him too? ( Like Ace/King and Queen etc )
 
I'm pretty sure we don't scale them above Shiki, just that they're roughly around that level off of scaling.
 
Last edited:
So I understand why Yonkos and Admirals scale to the nerfed Shiki's feat...

But why we scaling Yonko Commanders above him too? ( Like Ace/King and Queen etc )
they don't scale above Shiki.

iirc its because the Yonko Commanders can harm Yonkos so they downscale

And characters weaker than the commanders but that can damage them downscale even further.

Pretty much all of the High Tiers downscale from this feat and it's still unquantifiably H6A Because the calc was incredibly high into H6A and H6A is like 6000x from top to bottom.
 
But why we scaling Yonko Commanders above him too? ( Like Ace/King and Queen etc )
Not all of them scale above the 1 exaton, some scale unquantifiably below it.
The scabbards, Queen, Sanji, I believe Drake and others scale below.
Zoro and everyone over him scale unquantifiably above
 
W Don't forget FraudHawk
BASED

That Fraud is a complete joke fr fr

Man I used to fanboy over him so hard lmao

Man's little to no feats are ass for all the hype the series tries to give him 💀


- Vista matched him with the databook even saying Vista>=Mihawk ( Ain't this man supposed to be Shanks tier? )

- Jozu blocked his serious strike ( Idgf how durable Jozu is...Yonko>>> )

- Pre Timeskip Luffy dodged his serious slashes ( Idgf HOW GOOD his newly awakened OS Haki was... )

- Buggy survived his slashes ( Though it was God Buggy so Idk )

- Man ran the moment Shanks pulled up ( Man was crying and shittin on the inside fr )

L L L



FYr8dYDX0AAINWA.png
 
BASED

That Fraud is a complete joke fr fr

Man I used to fanboy over him so hard lmao

Man's little to no feats are ass for all the hype the series tries to give him 💀


- Vista matched him with the databook even saying Vista>=Mihawk ( Ain't this man supposed to be Shanks tier? )

- Jozu blocked his serious strike ( Idgf how durable Jozu is...Yonko>>> )

- Pre Timeskip Luffy dodged his serious slashes ( Idgf HOW GOOD his newly awakened OS Haki was... )

- Buggy survived his slashes ( Though it was God Buggy so Idk )

- Man ran the moment Shanks pulled up ( Man was crying and shittin on the inside fr )

L L L



FYr8dYDX0AAINWA.png
Bogard solos so why waste your breath explaining.
display.png

I see...alright then

Though Wadmirals>>>Lonko
86-DB92-F3-FC6-A-4-F70-8-B74-A47-FED93-F1-F3.png
 
Literally nearly every akainu/admiral fan on discords who don't care about fax and only wanks their character, says the most f up shit they can think off...

Lowkey suspicious...
 
The only problem I have I think with Lucci and luffy is that the profile says/implies they are equal... He should downscale instead

But don't have much contexts/info
 
The only problem I have I think with Lucci and luffy is that the profile says/implies they are equal... He should downscale instead

But don't have much contexts/info
Eh, leave it, they're hellbent on Lucci being a top tier for some reason.
 
Eh, leave it, they're hellbent on Lucci being a top tier for some reason.
No... I think you just went about it the wrong way if I remember correctly... Alot of them said he would still be this even if he scales to only that and that, so I do think they know at least they aren't equals... Hopefully... You (if I remember correctly) wanted to Lucci not to scale to gear 5 at all

Don't remember much tho
 
Thing is we literally don't have many feats for him.
The only one that's even slightly valid is him clashing with Luffy, which even then has some flaws to it.
 
Yee 3D2Y is canon...


<企画・高木明梨須(フジテレビ)コメント>

ルフィの“再生物語”です! 頂上決戦で兄・エースを失い、仲間とも離れ離れになってしまったルフィ。仲間と再会するまでの2年間は、原作でもアニメでも今まで闇に閉ざされてきました。その間、ルフィにいったい何があったのか!? 「修行」「覇気の習得」「3D2Yという暗号」数々の秘密を今回の放送で明かします! 夢のために、仲間のために戦うルフィの姿が、見る人に元気と希望を与える内容になっています。絶対に見逃せない完全新作エピソード! ぜひ子供、大人揃って見てほしいです。

Deepl:
<Comment from Akinasu Takagi (Fuji Television Network, Inc.)

This is Luffy's "rebirth story"! Luffy lost his brother Ace in the Summit Battle and was separated from his friends. The two years until he was reunited with his friends have been shrouded in darkness in both the original story and the anime. What happened to Luffy during that time? In this broadcast, we will reveal the secrets of his "training," "mastery of the High Aura," and "the 3D2Y code! Luffy's fight for his dreams and for his friends will give you energy and hope. This is a completely new episode that you absolutely cannot miss! I hope all children and adults will watch it together.

Google translate:
<Comment from Planning/Akarisu Takagi (Fuji TV)>

It's Luffy's "playback story"! Luffy lost his brother Ace in the final battle and was separated from his companions. The two years until he reunites with his friends have been shrouded in darkness, both in the original manga and in the anime. What happened to Luffy during that time!? The image of Luffy fighting for his friends for the sake of his dreams gives viewers energy and hope. A completely new episode that you can't miss! I would like children and adults to see it together.
I think
 
( Me personally, I see it like this, for now: )
YC2=Lucci<YC1<Admirals<<Yonko
Yee 3D2Y is canon...



I think
So what do we do about this?
 
(Me personally, I see it like this, for now: )
YC2=Lucci<YC1<Admirals<<Yonko

So what do we do about this?
Make a crt lol

Scaling wise World > Gear 2nd Luffy with Haki (pre RPL) > 217.14 Megatons

World w/DF is 100x > 217.14 Megatons (21.714 Gigatons)

Gear 2nd Luffy with Haki (Post RPL) ~ World w/DF + Haki > World w/DF > 21.714 Gigatons.
 
Isn't this ~
I put > since Gear 2nd with Haki would be unquantifiably above 217.14 Megatons (which is where base Gear 2nd is scaled to), World is above this, and then the 100x multiplier would make him 100x stronger ( >217.14 x 100= >21.714 Gigatons). So World with his fruit would be unquantifiably above 21 Gigatons.
 
Although I haven't seen the special in a long while, so I might have to re watch the fights.

I do know that his base is at least > Base Luffy, although Gear 2nd Luffy with Haki (Pre RPL) was able to scratch his base and shocked him, so Base World is < Gear 2nd with Haki (Pre RPL).
 
Last edited:
More info

Idk where this is from, can't find the source but basically more confirmation
昨年まで「エピソードオブ」シリーズでしばらく続いてきたTVスペシャルですが、今回はリメイクだったり原作のパラレル的な独立ストーリーではなく、原作に強く関連したオリジナルエピソードとなっており、これまでのTVスペシャルとは大きく異なっています。そのため、集英社の担当(※おそらく前メディア担当の大西さん)とは制作の初期段階から打ち合わせをしており、栄ちゃんにも脚本を一度目を通してもらったとのことです。

Deepl:
This TV special has continued for a while in the "Episode of" series until last year, but this time it is not a remake or an independent story parallel to the original, but an original episode strongly related to the original work, which is very different from previous TV specials. For this reason, we had meetings with the Shueisha staff (*probably Mr. Onishi, the former media director) from the early stages of production, and Ei-chan also had a chance to look over the script once.
 
Back
Top