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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Eseseso said:
Btw, I'm like 90% sure I found a Base Nitoryu no-Haki post-mink Zoro feat for Kaku scaling (just in case some people object to Kaku directly scaling to Santoryu Base Zoro who downscales from Base King w/ a sword).
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Y'know, way I see it, he probably (somewhat, possibly,) matches him until he uses Haki and 2/3 swords.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Y'know, way I see it, he probably (somewhat, possibly,) matches him until he uses Haki and 2/3 swords.
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Fair, but it depends on how much Oda wants to wank Giraffe Boi's Yontoryu and Hybrid.

Kaku seems to be comparable in base with Nitoryu Zoro.

So I guess Hybrid and/or Yontoryu/Rokushiki Kaku will be comparable to Buso Zoro (who is "Marco level" in AP due to matching King).

But if Kaku matches Hao Infusion Zoro, even I will begin calling BS. And you know me.

As for the Nitoryu feat I found, Imma wait until the official chapter comes out and it can be discussed in the CRT before I discuss it.
 
Eseseso said:
The Awakened Lucci one, since Lucci > Kaku
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We don't know if Lucci is still superior to Kaku since Kaku may also have Awakening and Haki which will certainly lessen their gap.
But, if Kaku, through some matter of folly, matches Zoro while he's using Advanced Haki or something, then it's either Oda being a goofball or Kaku really got strong during the timeskip.
Sadly that's highly unlikely.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
We don't know if Lucci is still superior to Kaku since Kaku may also have Awakening and Haki which will certainly lessen their gap.
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We can safely assume that Base Lucci > Base Kaku, which is all I care about since if Base/Hybrid Lucci is still only High 7-A by the end of the arc I will be very irritated.
TheMonkeMan said:
But, if Kaku, through some matter of folly, matches Zoro while he's using Advanced Haki or something, then it's either Oda being a goofball or Kaku really got strong during the timeskip.
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Yeah.

I am fine with Hybrid Kaku matching Buso Zoro (as in the one who matched King), but if he matches Enma Zoro (who mind you is Oden level) or Haoshoku Infusion Zoro, I will call bs.
TheMonkeMan said:
Sadly that's highly unlikely.
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I don't doubt he pumped iron over the last 2 years, but unless his love of giraffes led him to Awaken his Devil Fruit, Zoro's Enma and Hao Infusion should flatten him.

His Hao Infusion made Flame-on King, who is tougher than Kaido durability-wise, fear his blows and block his attacks.
 
Eseseso said:
We can safely assume that Base Lucci > Base Kaku, which is all I care about since if Base/Hybrid Lucci is still only High 7-A by the end of the arc I will be very irritated.
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Lucci is probably gonna get clapped pretty soon because he can't just run rampant on Egghead so I wouldn't try to bet on him having any H6A feats by the end of this.
Plus he's a really arrogant and.. what's the word... stubborn character, and those are the ones that go out the quickest.
Kaku is probably gonna fall soon as well, however Stussy might not as she clearly has something weird going on with her.
Not in terms of Powerscaling but in terms of her Character.
Eseseso said:
Yeah.

I am fine with Hybrid Kaku matching Buso Zoro (as in the one who matched King), but if he matches Enma Zoro (who mind you is Oden level) or Haoshoku Infusion Zoro, I will call bs.

I don't doubt he pumped iron over the last 2 years, but unless his love of giraffes led him to Awaken his Devil Fruit, Zoro's Enma and Hao Infusion should flatten him.

His Hao Infusion made Flame-on King, who is tougher than Kaido durability-wise, fear his blows and block his attacks.
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True that.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Lucci is probably gonna get clapped pretty soon because he can't just run rampant on Egghead so I wouldn't try to bet on him having any H6A feats by the end of this.
Plus he's a really arrogant and.. what's the word... stubborn character, and those are the ones that go out the quickest.
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Yep.

It's unfortunate he decided to take on the strongest guy in OP instead of either Zoro or Sanji.

And "stubborn" is putting it lightly.
TheMonkeMan said:
Kaku is probably gonna fall soon as well, however Stussy might not as she clearly has something weird going on with her.
Not in terms of Powerscaling but in terms of her Character.
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Agreed.

She seems to me like she's going to kick serious ass.
 
Eseseso said:
Yep.

It's unfortunate he decided to take on the strongest guy in OP
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He didn't take on Weevil so I don't know what this means.
Eseseso said:
instead of either Zoro or Sanji.
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I was honestly hoping Jinbe fought him but I feel like it's pipe dreaming now.
It'd make sense as it'd parallel to him fighting Who's Who and Who's Who comparing him self to Lucci ( which is a bit of a fair comparison but at this point Lucci probably mid diffs WW )
 
Eseseso said:
And "stubborn" is putting it lightly.
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I don't know how you can get whooped to the point of getting knocked out by just 3 hits and your conclusion is that you have to KEEP FIGHTING that same guy.
He must think he's that guy
Eseseso said:
Agreed.

She seems to me like she's going to kick serious ass.
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Someone said she might have an Owl or Otter fruit which would be pretty nice to see even though Otters can swim and she uh.. can't, lol.
 
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Iconic... Not the best


He was like the only one who looked like I've seen him before when I was new to anime/one piece... His design even has a feel to him that he's something like a god


Holy... It's annoying af talking to people who don't think critically...

I should instead say.... Enel is the most iconic villain design in one piece.
 
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idk I've always seen people who haven't watched or read One Piece end up being most familiar with Doffy, BB, and nowadays Kaido. Makes sense since they were the villains for the longest sections of the story and prob the most talked about villains by fans because of that.
 
Godernet said:
idk I've always seen people who haven't watched or read One Piece end up being most familiar with Doffy, BB, and nowadays Kaido. Makes sense since they were the villains for the longest sections of the story and prob the most talked about villains by fans.
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Those are anime fans... Who are knowledgeable in anime and sees them from tiktok/social media... Enel was decades ago
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Those are anime fans... Who are knowledgeable in anime and sees them from tiktok/social media... Enel was decades ago
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Dressrosa was almost a decade ago.

I guess outside of anime fans then yeah it might be Enel because of the face meme. Overall tho it's definitely Doffy
 
I love how there might be valid arguments for Luffy beating Goku, but I gotta check Goku's page to be sure.
 
iirc Luffy might not be able to put Goku down actually. Even with Transmutation. I think I heard that Saiyans have some sort of regeneration and they don't really have vital organs like humans.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
iirc Luffy might not be able to put Goku down actually. Even with Transmutation. I think I heard that Saiyans have some sort of regeneration and they don't really have vital organs like humans.
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Not really regen but incredibly durable bodies(bulletproof even without Ki) and high stamina plus Ki gives a lot of hax and resistances.
 
Yeah I'm not sure Luffy can take Goku out. If he could, he'd have to resort to G5 which has a Stamina limit, though he can enter the form again after a minute ( hyperbole, but it should be about 40 seconds judging off a time limit that was given in verse, at the end of said limit he was back to normal ).
Thing is, can Goku actually hit him?
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Yeah I'm not sure Luffy can take Goku out. If he could, he'd have to resort to G5 which has a Stamina limit, though he can enter the form again after a minute ( hyperbole, but it should be about 40 seconds judging off a time limit that was given in verse, at the end of said limit he was back to normal ).
Thing is, can Goku actually hit him?
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Base Goku could tag someone hundreds of times stronger than him that was skipping fractions of seconds into the future after watching him briefly fight Vegeta one time with just intuition, no precog.

And if we're talking current versions but stats equal Goku has Ultra Instinct where his body auto-dodges attacks without him having to think. So a better question would be could Luffy even tag Goku?
 
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