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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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Godernet
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it's not even really an argument. it sounded like Monke didn't know a lot about Goku so I was just explaining why Luffy is getting put on a T-Shirt.
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pretty sure Saiyan saga Goku snatches Luffy's life certificate if speed's equal
Godernet
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*King Piccolo Arc Gokupretty sure Saiyan saga Goku snatches Luffy's life certificate if speed's equal
DaMonkeMan
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So about the Ultra Instinct.
Luffy has still managed to tag Observation Haki specialists such as Fujitora and Katakuri ( the latter can see the future, and while I have no doubt the former can also do that we don't have definitive proof so.. ) and he's hit Kaidou several times at once ( with "Gomu Gomu no Hydra" ) while the latter has damn good reactions most of the time.
I may be wanking him though.
Godernet
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I see where you're coming from.
Let me correct something real quick tho.
Luffy does fight great Obv Haki users but precog is a bit different from instinctive action.
Great Obv Haki is still dependent on the User being calm and keeping their senses sharp. That's why Luffy can take advantage of that sometimes by overwhelming their senses with Gatling, Black Mamba, Hydra, etc. or a situation like Katakuri and his donuts.
And for Ultra Instinct, it's not exactly reactions, Goku's body just dodges. no reaction time to be applicable since it just happens, no conscious thoughts applied he just moves.
If Luffy did a Gatling on Goku he wouldn't need time to think about how to dodge it, his body would just automatically do it.
Even Luffy did his own version of Ultra Instinct(kinda) before he knew Obv Haki in Skypeia vs Enel's Mantra and Enel couldn't hit him.
Godernet
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Ultra Instinct also works on people many times faster than the user.
But even Adv Obv Haki has been blitzed by Kaido before.
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Goku wanks... The TRUTH is luffy can win and goku has barley any ways of defeating luffy
Godernet
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Yee he should be.... Especially gear 5 easily should be
Godernet
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I never said it would be easy
but I do think its definitive who wins most of the time.
And there are versions of Goku who do easily defeat Luffy that why I said it depends on the version.
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Godernet
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that was stats not equal in which case yes Goku would easily defeat Luffy past early Z
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I'm using this
Son Goku (DBS Manga)
Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head...
vsbattles.fandom.com
Gear 5 luffy
Godernet
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stats equal right?I'm using this
VsSon Goku (DBS Manga)
Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head...
Gear 5 luffy
DaMonkeMan
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What they gon do when deku starts crying
no diffed
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Gon >
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Gon in hiatus jail he don't matter
DaMonkeMan
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No he not...
Godernet
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so you have MFTL 3-A Ultra Instinct Goku vs FTL H6A G5 Luffy?
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Yep
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wait did HxH actually come back? Am I that much a neandrethal when it comes to news??No he not...
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Bro it's been back for a while now
Godernet
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it came back for a bit and now its gone again.
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Magic
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Hey can someone link me the CRT for Shiki Multi Continental calc getting accepted and being used to upscale many of the OP Cast to High 6-A?
Godernet
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you about to cook?
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We wouldn't get anywhere without them. What good are scaling discussions when the calcs used for the values are flawed?
Godernet
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Here you go
I need to find the scaling one.
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And I know that, truly I do, but that doesn't make them less tiresome.
Even the ones I like, like the very High 6-A we used for current scaling.
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OK...thanksHere you go
I need to find the scaling one.
Take your time
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I'm not sure there was a scaling one.
