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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Eminiteable said:
Ryuma >>>
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Forgot about the sword god
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Didn't roger and garp solo him and his yonko crew? 🤔 Joyboy (Solar system minimum 🤔 maybe 🤷‍♂️) and Imu >> one piece verse
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The fact that Roger went through great lengths to ask his arch-enemy to team up with him in order to defeat a bigger foe is enough evidence to draw the conclusion that Xebec -- the captain of the rocks' pirates and the same person who trained Whitebeard, Kaido and Big mom. As well as having them under control proves that both Garp or Roger are individually weaker than Xebec.

Wouldn't make any sense for Whitebeard being stronger than his captain who took care of him
 
SuperKamiNappa said:
Kaido was never said to be the strongest when Whitebeard and Roger were around, on the contrary Whitebeard was explicitly called the strongest man alive despite being old and sick. Prime WB > Old WB > Kaido
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We currently accept Prime WB ~ Old WB via the SBS and databook statements

And the Ace novel states that Kaido has the highest battle power out of all the yonko
SuperKamiNappa said:
I do agree Rox > Roger though
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Agreed
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
No.
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Then why would Roger ask Garp to team up with him if he can defeat him by himself? besides, it's heavily implied that Xebec taught them Haki, and was specifically looking for his Conquerer Haki army.

I wouldn't underestimate Xebec just because we know next to nothing about him. He's the captain, who tamed the future Yonkos (Captains in One piece are generally stronger than the rest of the crew, rocks' pirates are no exception of Oda's captain rule), and needed to be erased from the "History books" along with God valley.

My guts is telling me it won't be the last time we will hear from him.
 
SuperKamiNappa said:
So wait we except that he's stronger than Whitebeard based on the novel but not Shanks? Even though Shanks was presumably also a Yonko at the time? Does the novel in question say Shanks > Kaido?
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No the statement just doesn't include Shanks as according to the source it's hard to find information about him, it only covered Big Mom, Kaido and Whitebeard.
 
Oden said that if he couldn't beat Kaido then nobody could.
And he matched Kaido's base form.
And he knew how strong Whitebeard was.

Kaido is so over WB I wanna make a CRT about it.
 
RazumaHiroki said:
Then why would Roger ask Garp to team up with him if he can defeat him by himself? besides, it's heavily implied that Xebec taught them Haki, and was specifically looking for his Conquerer Haki army.

I wouldn't underestimate Xebec just because we know next to nothing about him. He's the captain, who tamed the future Yonkos (Captains in One piece are generally stronger than the rest of the crew, rocks' pirates are no exception of Oda's captain rule), and needed to be erased from the "History books" along with God valley.

My guts is telling me it won't be the last time we will hear from him.
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Roger > Prime Garp ~ Xebec > Yonkos
 
I'm probably one of the few people who believes that Im is gonna be some insane god tier. Of course if I'm wrong (and I likely am wrong) and their not actually strong then I'll be okay with that as long as they're really cool. I don't know I just like the idea of Im grabbing a yonko or yonko lvl beings face and slamming them on the ground and causing a massive tremor throughout that region of the work and fracturing the red line lol. That's very unlikely to happen though lol.
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
I'm probably one of the few people who believes that Im is gonna be some insane god tier. Of course if I'm wrong (and I likely am wrong) and their not actually strong then I'll be okay with that as long as they're really cool. I don't know I just like the idea of Im grabbing a yonko or yonko lvl beings face and slamming them on the ground and causing a massive tremor throughout that region of the work and fracturing the red line lol. That's very unlikely to happen though lol.
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Isn't Imu? I think he has future sight but can see years into the future and planet lvl vision or presence sensing because it looks like he is watching over luffy
 
I dont think Roger ~ WB since Roger vs WB & Oden Have been Sick for a years, its not His Prime. I think Roger Prime is on God Valley incidents.
 
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