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Outside of his name and a bit of his style i don't much connection, his fighting style isn't very Castlevania-like (well, Soma can use huge swords so it wouldn't be a new thing if he was included, but anyway).
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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Mihawk's boat is a coffin
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Hence why the question was more focused on his appearance.
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Thinking about this, these "problems" wouldn't be a thing if we didn't have the Yonkou scaling to WB's quakes, right? If we are talking about the previous ratings with H7A and 6C, the Yonkou would all scale >>>4,3Gts via Kaido one-shotting G4, while Doffy is really close to 6C with his strongest attacks and the Tobiroppo would probably downscale to H7A+ or just keep baseline 6C
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I've been saying this for ages.
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We don't actually know how strong dressrosa G4 actually is and there is whole cake island where he gets stronger and stuff
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This may not be the place to discuss scaling, but just a question: Shouldn't Blackbeard's dura scale to Gura since he took it to the head and quickly shrugged it off? If so, shouldn't WB physicals scale since he also did almost the same thing with the Bisento?
PS.: I know this is currently "accepted" (even if not with this justificative) however, this is a personal doubt of mine.
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maybe... Maybe
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He scales close to it, no? And that Newgate was like, closer to death than he was to life.
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Yeah, but it goes for both ways, the same way his illness and wounds were making his physicals weaker, the same happens for his fruit (Unless a healthy WB Gura = A half dead WB Gura, but then a healthy WB physicals >>>>> Gura, which is weird). At the end of the day, Teach's dura would scale to a half dead WB lol.
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I’m pretty sure there’s no problem with that, as akainu is stated to have the strongest Devil fruit.
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Yall are tryna justify characters that have no feats scaling to the strongest characters in the series to axe the highest feats because your favorite characters aren't that strong?
All I see is the "YC1 level and Admiral level scaling" all over.
All I see is the "YC1 level and Admiral level scaling" all over.
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Not to mention they CURRENTLY, scale above sickbeard so you guys can’t even mention that they scale to his quakes being a problem, since he clashed with sickbeard which WB’s last key.
If Whitebeards 6-B calc gets accepted, then so would the low 6-B for sickbeard, which is where currently akainu would scale. Of course however, if a scaling crt were to be made (which I don’t think should, because m3x and damage didn’t bother to before), then akainu would be low 6-B, the other admirals and sickbeard as well, while the other yonko and old beard/prime beard scale to 6-B
If Whitebeards 6-B calc gets accepted, then so would the low 6-B for sickbeard, which is where currently akainu would scale. Of course however, if a scaling crt were to be made (which I don’t think should, because m3x and damage didn’t bother to before), then akainu would be low 6-B, the other admirals and sickbeard as well, while the other yonko and old beard/prime beard scale to 6-B
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IIRC, Yami2 was also referred as the strongest too
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"Strongest" is vague, especially for a DF that doesn't use AP
Magu2 is stated to have the highest offensive power.
That's as blatant as it can be
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All there is is a reluctance to scale people to the highest feats.
Originally it was an outlier since there was nothing around it.
Next it was ED when the power could be focused into a fist and slammed into another person.
Next it was trying to scale people's physicals 100x weaker than the DF even though the dude who has the power can casually backhand magma devil fruits even stronger than his own.
If yall don't want them to scale high, just say that.
Me personally, I don't miss the days when Vergo and Akainu could have an even fight and Vergo could win on this wiki.
Originally it was an outlier since there was nothing around it.
Next it was ED when the power could be focused into a fist and slammed into another person.
Next it was trying to scale people's physicals 100x weaker than the DF even though the dude who has the power can casually backhand magma devil fruits even stronger than his own.
If yall don't want them to scale high, just say that.
Me personally, I don't miss the days when Vergo and Akainu could have an even fight and Vergo could win on this wiki.
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Honestly it’s just ridiculous, because people certain PEOPLE who consistently lowball, give zero arguments and just say “It’s my opinion, that’s my argument” and then expect people to agree with them. I mean like we can respect it, but nobody will agree with you if you have ZERO reasoning and are just lowballing.
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Anyways for now this is how I think it should be, supposing tempests calcs all get accepted.
Yonko, Roger, Shiki, garp, sengoku - 6-B
Blackbeard, Admirals, Marco, vista, jozu, ace - Low 6-B (from Wbs shima yurashi)
since that’s whT is accepted rn.
That’s what should be APPLIED instantly, not a single scaling crt should be made, because m3x and damage didn’t either did they?
then if wanted a scaling crt should be made scaling admirals to yonko which I already 100% agree with
Yonko, Roger, Shiki, garp, sengoku - 6-B
Blackbeard, Admirals, Marco, vista, jozu, ace - Low 6-B (from Wbs shima yurashi)
since that’s whT is accepted rn.
That’s what should be APPLIED instantly, not a single scaling crt should be made, because m3x and damage didn’t either did they?
then if wanted a scaling crt should be made scaling admirals to yonko which I already 100% agree with
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Aye aye aye hold on.
Idc about lowballing or highballing or whatever.
I care about the validity of the argument, the consistency of what you're arguing, and if it makes logical sense.
If someone comes and says 4-C Kaido, I will say "no" with no explanation whatsoever. Because logically, it makes no sense. I don't need to explain that.
But if there's consistency and you just don't like it, too bad
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Literally why I said, if people give the argument of “it’s my opinion” then they shouldn’t expect anyone to give a flying ****, cause your opinion is invalid to them and isn’t an argument lol
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"The power of the "Yami Yami Fruit" is the strongest and worst of all abilities!" (I'm not really a japanese expert so the translation can be wrong).
However, as Tempest said, it 's too vague. All I can say is that we must be careful regarding some OP Statements.
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Yeah it’s way too vague.
"The power of the "Yami Yami Fruit" is the strongest and worst of all abilities!" (I'm not really a japanese expert so the translation can be wrong).
However, as Tempest said, it 's too vague. All I can say is that we must be careful regarding some OP Statements.
For now, akainu and admirals scaling to the sickbeard key seems fine, since sickbeard pulled off the low 6-B feat and that is currently what is accepted. No Scaling CRT should even be required to make that, if tempests calcs are accepted.
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How many strongest devil fruits are there?
"The power of the "Yami Yami Fruit" is the strongest and worst of all abilities!" (I'm not really a japanese expert so the translation can be wrong).
However, as Tempest said, it 's too vague. All I can say is that we must be careful regarding some OP Statements.
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Only 1 that points towards AP
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"Highest offensive power".
Headcanon
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I mean, my top 5 scales to that pre or post wano, so at least to me that's not a thing.
My headcanon of how the ratings should be is more or less:
WB: 6C physically, up to H6C with the Gura Gura
Akainu: 6C physically, up to H6C with the Magu Magu
Not dismissing the feats as ED and thus not combat applicable, but at the same time noting that they aren't a level of damage everyone can do, but i know the above has quite a few problems so that's why it's just my headcanon.
But what did that guy say? A man's dream will never die?
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My truecanon of how the rating should be is Pre timeskip monster trio islands lvl, Post monster trio somewhere around Country lvl, Admirals Country-continental lvl Yonko continental-moon lvl or country-moon lvl 
and Roger and Prime Beard Planet lvl
and Roger and Prime Beard Planet lvl
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People who think Roger and WB are the strongest characters for no reason make me wanna cry
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Headcanon.
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Xebec>>Both.
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Didn't roger and garp solo him and his yonko crew?
Joyboy (Solar system minimum maybe 
) and Imu >> one piece verse
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Kaido, Mihawk, and Rocks are objectively the strongest in pure AP
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Roger and Prime whitebeard>
Roger and Prime whitebeard>
Roger and Prime whitebeard>
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It's only fax... And in the future it will be 100% accurate. Monkey speaks truth.
Eminiteable
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