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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

I think he may be talking about Luffy in his base post-CoC infusion-
But that doesn't matter in comparaison to G4 pre-wano because he's jumping two tiers for that anyway.
 
Didn't Doffy stop Jozu with his strings at Marineford?

Because that creates some awkward scaling issues...
 
What about the whole " Wano Base Luffy>>> WCI Gear 4 Luffy~Katakuri" since base Luffy didn't get KO'ed like he did in Gear 4.
Why don't we accept this?

It's pretty clear that Base Pre-Udon Luffy was doing a much better job against Kata than pre-WCI Gear 3 did (maybe not Gear 4).
 
Like, I see no reason why Post-Kata Base Luffy isn't >= Pre-Kata G3 Luffy in AP.

It wouldn't even hurt scaling, since Post-Kata Gear 3rd (at High 7-A) is still well above the 7-A status that Post-Kata Base Luffy would and should have.
 
Didn't Doffy stop Jozu with his strings at Marineford?

Because that creates some awkward scaling issues...
lifting strength
Why don't we accept this?

It's pretty clear that Base Pre-Udon Luffy was doing a much better job against Kata than pre-WCI Gear 3 did (maybe not Gear 4).
no the hell he wasn't.
pre wci gear 3rd got overpowered by a super large punch. base luffy was still getting punched around by regular sized hits
Then how come pre-Udon Base Luffy isn't high 7-A due to being above Gear 3, mrk?
because he's not over gear 3rd
Wasn't base Luffy somewhat matching and at least somewhat harming base-only Kata for a few hours late in their fight?

Seems to me like Post Kata Luffy >= Pre-Kata G3 Luffy in AP too.
And Gear 3rd Luffy scales above base Kata
 
lifting strength
Fair
no the hell he wasn't.
pre wci gear 3rd got overpowered by a super large punch. base luffy was still getting punched around by regular sized hits
Ok, but base Luffy was still somewhat harming Base Kata
because he's not over gear 3rd

And Gear 3rd Luffy scales above base Kata
Ok, but even if Post Kata Base Luffy isn't above Pre Kata G3, he should still at least be comparable to Base Kata.
 
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Fair

Ok, but base Luffy was still somewhat harming Base Kata
Base Kata, who doesn't scale to Gear 3rd in any way shape or form
Ok, but even if Post Kata Base Luffy isn't above Pre Kata G3, he should still at least be comparable to Base Kata.
By injuring Katakuri when he was wounded and not guarding with Haki. Smh
 
By injuring Katakuri when he was wounded and not guarding with Haki. Smh
Luffy was also pretty wounded at this point, and not using Haki.

Even if Pre-Udon Base Luffy isn't as strong as Base Kata (who in Base scales above Oven's 312 megatons), he should at least still be comparable
 
Luffy was also pretty wounded at this point, and not using Haki.

Even if Pre-Udon Base Luffy isn't as strong as Base Kata (who in Base scales above Oven's 312 megatons), he should at least still be comparable
Based on hurting an injured katakuri, no.
 
So in this chapter Luffy has to use Gear 4 with the strongest attack but it still hasn't had any impact on Kaido.
(https://onepiece-y.com/one-piece-chapter-923-kaido-the-yonkou-vs-luffy/)

and in this chapter Luffy even in base mode can hurt Kaido so with a multiplier how far does gear 4 get tier
(https://w1.9loov.com/read-manga/one-piece-chapter-1010/)
Luffy far outscales Dressrosa/WCI/Early wano G4 even in base form after awakening CoC Infusion.
But that's for the post-wano revisions
 
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