One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

[KingTempest]

Why not? He has been mentioned multiple times to be the strongest Creature.

His statement was "he's said to be the strongest creature".
That's hearsay from the people of the world, which we can't trust.
It's said that Elizabello's punch can knock out a Yonko. We don't trust it either.


It's from here

https://vsbattles.com/threads/one-piece-crt-kaido-scaling-to-zunesha.73745/

 

[StrawHatArslan]

His statement was "he's said to be the strongest creature".
That's hearsay from the people of the world, which we can't trust.
It's said that Elizabello's punch can knock out a Yonko. We don't trust it either.


It's from here

https://vsbattles.com/threads/one-piece-crt-kaido-scaling-to-zunesha.73745/

Of course it was xulrev...

 

[KingTempest]

Of course it was xulrev...

He made a valid point tho...

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Hello, what do you guys think about scaling luffy to FTL for dodging foxy's beams or zoro dodging kuma's LS attacks? Or why not scale Oars for his title of continent puller as lifting strength?

 

[KingTempest]

Hello, what do you guys think about scaling luffy to FTL for dodging foxy's beams or zoro dodging kuma's LS attacks?

You don't get FTL for dodging light. You can be MHS+ and dodge light.

Or why not scale Oars for his title of continent puller as lifting strength?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/one-piece-lifting-strength-revision.114360/

Work in progress

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

You don't get FTL for dodging light. You can be MHS+ and dodge light.

do we have calcs for it? And the lifting strength thread is closed how is it in progress?

 

[WrongIdea21]

His statement was "he's said to be the strongest creature".
That's hearsay from the people of the world, which we can't trust.
It's said that Elizabello's punch can knock out a Yonko. We don't trust it either.


It's from here

https://vsbattles.com/threads/one-piece-crt-kaido-scaling-to-zunesha.73745/

Damn, its been a While, I agree for that if Based From Rumors things couldn't be trust.

Hello, what do you guys think about scaling luffy to FTL for dodging foxy's beams or zoro dodging kuma's LS attacks? Or why not scale Oars for his title of continent puller as lifting strength?

I thought Noro-noro beam dodging feats already Calculated multiple times

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

I thought Noro-noro beam dodging feats already Calculated multiple times

source

 

[WrongIdea21]

source

Here, Also here and Many more Outside this wiki

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Here, Also here and Many more Outside this wiki

Wow thank you but I don't think these are being used, why? Are they outliers? They don't seem to be but I am not familiar with one piece speed.

 

[WrongIdea21]

Wow thank you but I don't think these are being used, why? Are they outliers? They don't seem to be but I am not familiar with one piece speed.

You older than me on this wiki, you know the Answers

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

You older than me on this wiki, you know the Answers

I am ignorant.

 

[KingTempest]

They were considered outliers.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

They were considered outliers.

Okay thanks have a cookie.

 

[KingTempest]

Okay thanks have a cookie.

 

[Dr.Fix]

BUMP

 

[Dr.Fix]

We need a Bounty thread. Somewhere to list them all and make predictions (Right answers get cookies). Any thoughts on that?

I'll start in case this gets moved:


Jozu: 900,000,000
Vista: 980,000,000
Lucky Roo: 1,030,000,000
Ysaoop: 1,120,000,000
Marco: 1,160,000,000.
Benn: 1,270,000,000
King: 1,330,000,000
Silvers: 1,460,000,000



In case you are wondering I am using the Yonkos, Luffy, and current known officers as indicatiors

1. Katakuri=Shanks (Ie lowest bounty and starting point). Also like Shanks Katakuri is chill and doesn't pose much threat outside of attacking his crew.
2. Marco=Big Mom with an increase of 10%. Like Katakuri he grew up in the shadow of Whitebeard and both are the same age. Unlike Katakuri he waged war with the Gov so bigger bounty.
3. Benn Beckman=difference between Kaido & Whitebeard with an increase of 10%. Yeah I know ya'll want higher but the next spot is taken.
4. King=Difference between Big Mom & Kaido with an increase of 5%. He seems more likley to have inflated bounty thanks to his mentality.
5. Ray=Roger with another 10% increase. Obviously it has not changed since he retired 25 years ago.

 

[Eminiteable]

Jozu: 900,000,000
Vista: 980,000,000
Lucky Roo: 1,030,000,000
Ysaoop: 1,120,000,000
Marco: 1,160,000,000.
Benn: 1,270,000,000
King: 1,330,000,000
Silvers: 1,460,000,000

These are my thoughts;

Marco: 1,374,000,000
Jozu: 1,249,000,000
Vista: 1,177,000,000
Izo: 510,000,000

Belo Betty: 450,000,000
Karasu: 400,000,000
Lindbergh: 300,000,000
Morley 250,000,000

King: 1,445,000,000

Benn Beckman: 1,891,000,000
Lucky Roo: 1,098,000,000
Yasopp: 1,026,000,000

Silvers Rayleigh: 2,057,700,000

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Since I don't know if this was answered in the series itself, I'm asking it here.

What happens if more than one person eats the same Devil Fruit? They are pretty large and you can cut them into pieces so what happens if two people eat a piece, does it go to just one or can more people get the ability?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Since I don't know if this was answered in the series itself, I'm asking it here.

What happens if more than one person eats the same Devil Fruit? They are pretty large and you can cut them into pieces so what happens if two people eat a piece, does it go to just one or can more people get the ability?

When you eat even a little bit the rest of the devil fruit will turn into a normal fruit

 

[LordGriffin1000]

When you eat even a little bit the rest of the devil fruit will turn into a normal fruit

Ok, thanks for the reply. I was wondering why only one person could eat it an gain abilities but others couldn't.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Ok, thanks for the reply. I was wondering why only one person could eat it an gain abilities but others couldn't.

When the devil fruit user dies… the DF finds a normal fruit to possess? And that’s how the cycle works if I remember correctly

 

[KobsterHope07]

Since I don't know if this was answered in the series itself, I'm asking it here.

What happens if more than one person eats the same Devil Fruit? They are pretty large and you can cut them into pieces so what happens if two people eat a piece, does it go to just one or can more people get the ability?

The Ace Manga confirmed that the first person to bit into the fruit will receive the power

 

[KingTempest]

Since I don't know if this was answered in the series itself, I'm asking it here.

What happens if more than one person eats the same Devil Fruit? They are pretty large and you can cut them into pieces so what happens if two people eat a piece, does it go to just one or can more people get the ability?

It was tried in the Ace novel when Ace and Deuce ate the split Mera mera and only Ace got the power

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

The Ace Manga confirmed that the first person to bit into the fruit will receive the power

Is that canon? Because there are I think characters we haven’t seen at all but

 

[KobsterHope07]

Is that canon? Because there are I think characters we haven’t seen at all but

I think so, don’t know for sure. The manga is an adaptation of the original Ace Novel which stated to same thing

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I think so, don’t know for sure. The manga is an adaptation of the original Ace Novel which stated to same thing

 

[XDragnoir]

Yonko Commander bounties:

Marco = 1,330-1,400 (IMO it's at least higher than Queen,)
Jozu = 1,220-1300 (shouldn't be far from Marco)
Vista = 1,110-1,200 (same)

King = 1,400-1,490 (lower than Luffy but higher than Marco)

Due to Shanks having the lowest bounty of the original 4 i think his crew is the less "we need to raise their bounty ASAP", but at the same time they have way less members than the others and thus any notable movement would affect "everyone" (i.e the ones we see in Marineford) more or less what happens with the Straws, so i can see them being relative to BM's Generals or relative to WB's Commanders, anyway:

Beckman = 1,100-1200
Roo = 1,000-1,100
Yasopp = 900-1,000

Rayleigh = 1,620-1,700
Gaban = 1,540-1,600

 

[Dr.Fix]

Is that canon? Because there are I think characters we haven’t seen at all but

Depends who you ask. It should be as Oda at least oversaw it and it doesn't go way off from the manga. There will always be some people who deny it if they do not like it.

These are my thoughts;

Marco: 1,374,000,000
Jozu: 1,249,000,000
Vista: 1,177,000,000
Izo: 510,000,000

Belo Betty: 450,000,000
Karasu: 400,000,000
Lindbergh: 300,000,000
Morley 250,000,000

King: 1,445,000,000

Benn Beckman: 1,223,000,000
Lucky Roo: 1,098,000,000
Yasopp: 1,026,000,000

Silvers Rayleigh: 2,057,700,000

Lol you saw the Worstgen post didn't you.

 

[Eminiteable]

Lol you saw the Worstgen post didn't you.

I did and changed it, originally had Marco at 2.274 billion and Izo 520 million so I was pretty close, changed them to justify the changes to my new predictions on Jozu and Vista.

 

[KingTempest]

Vivre card is gonna piss people off lmfao

 

[KobsterHope07]

Vivre card is gonna piss people off lmfao

We live to see it

 

[KingTempest]

So Roger'll get his CoO again, what else

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Vivre card is gonna piss people off lmfao

Cough.

 

[KingTempest]

Strongest man = to a sick Roger lmfao

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

->Strongest Pirate/man
->Rivals another person

I'm starting to think Oda doesn't understand what the word "Strongest" even means lol

 

[KingTempest]

This is still up for debate

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Spade is starting to make more and more sense as time goes on, ngl.

 

[KingTempest]

Base Kaido fought and matched "the strongest swordsmanship", which would put that "strongest swordsmanship" above Roger, which puts it above Whitebeard.

Consistency consistency consistency

 

[KingTempest]

Only titles of strength I take now

Strongest Devil Fruit - Magu Magu
Strongest Paramecia - Gura Gura
Strongest Beast - Kaido
Strongest Swordsman - Mihawk

This is all I'm accepting currently