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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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Soooooooo....
Beginning of Raid Base, Gear 2nd, Gear 3rd, and Gear 2nd+Gear 3rd Luffy<All Forms of Jack<Full Power Scabbards<All Forms of Queen~Base and Diable Jambe Sanji~Beginning of Raid Base Zoro<End of Raid Base Zoro<Beginning of Raid Buso Zoro<Ifrit Jambe Sanji~Marco~All Forms of King~End of Raid Buso Zoro~Base Kaidou~Base Big Mom (This means basic Homies)~Base Yamato<Zoan Form Kaidou~Soul Amped Big Mom~Beginning of Raid Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy~Beginning of Raid Enma Unleashed Zoro~All Forms of Kid~Law<Hybrid Form Kaidou~Hybrid Form Yamato~End of Raid Enma Unleashed+Hao Infusion Zoro<Beginning of Raid Asura Zoro<Hybrid Form Kaidou with Hao Infusion~Base Luffy with Hao Infusion~Hybrid Yamato with Hao Infusion<Drunk Hybrid Form Kaidou with Hao Infusion~Gear 2nd, Gear 3rd, Gear 2nd+Gear 3rd, Gear 4th: Snakeman, and Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy with Hao Infusion<Flame Dragon Torch Kaidou<Peak Gear 5th Luffy
Thoughts everyone?
Beginning of Raid Base, Gear 2nd, Gear 3rd, and Gear 2nd+Gear 3rd Luffy<All Forms of Jack<Full Power Scabbards<All Forms of Queen~Base and Diable Jambe Sanji~Beginning of Raid Base Zoro<End of Raid Base Zoro<Beginning of Raid Buso Zoro<Ifrit Jambe Sanji~Marco~All Forms of King~End of Raid Buso Zoro~Base Kaidou~Base Big Mom (This means basic Homies)~Base Yamato<Zoan Form Kaidou~Soul Amped Big Mom~Beginning of Raid Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy~Beginning of Raid Enma Unleashed Zoro~All Forms of Kid~Law<Hybrid Form Kaidou~Hybrid Form Yamato~End of Raid Enma Unleashed+Hao Infusion Zoro<Beginning of Raid Asura Zoro<Hybrid Form Kaidou with Hao Infusion~Base Luffy with Hao Infusion~Hybrid Yamato with Hao Infusion<Drunk Hybrid Form Kaidou with Hao Infusion~Gear 2nd, Gear 3rd, Gear 2nd+Gear 3rd, Gear 4th: Snakeman, and Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy with Hao Infusion<Flame Dragon Torch Kaidou<Peak Gear 5th Luffy
Thoughts everyone?
WrongIdea21
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I agree with this scaling, but i prefer G4 boundman < Gear 5< Kaen Daiko < Bajrang Gun
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Just watched 1026 and honestly
Anime roof fight>>>>>>>>manga. Luffy throwing hands with Kaido right off the bat for as long as he did but only losing out for lack of better haki makes more sense than him getting two-tapped, unlocking CoC infusion then suddenly having god tier dura from an AP boost.
Plus the choreography HOTDAMN
Anime roof fight>>>>>>>>manga. Luffy throwing hands with Kaido right off the bat for as long as he did but only losing out for lack of better haki makes more sense than him getting two-tapped, unlocking CoC infusion then suddenly having god tier dura from an AP boost.
Plus the choreography HOTDAMN
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Any opinion that puts G5 over G4 is a yes from me.
But yeah, that makes sense tbh. I dunno if "beginning of raid" Luffy is really below Jack/Scabbards since he didn't take things seriously (or had a bloom nonsense) until the Kaido fight or after- but it looks good
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...Yes.
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I disagree with Jack being below the Scabbards, his base matched Ashura and his Zoan/Hybrid held his own against the 2 Sulongs at different times in their Sulong forms.
Also the King disrespect SMH. To say nothing of the nerfing Soul Amped Big Mom got.
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Going off of scaling chains I guess.
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WrongIdea21
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I think that would wreck Katakuri scaling, Katakuri is simply Overpowering them, but i think this chapter we would see another Katakuri vs Germa.
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We don't treat the raid suit as having higher AP just Speed and Durability.
Sanji matched King's physicals which are pretty featless besides matching Sanji and getting blocked by Zoro's mouth sword.
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We do it for all the other Vinsmoke Siblings.
King really shouldn't need a sword IMO to be 1-petaton tier, especially since his sword doesn't seem to be unique beside its teeth that let it grab swords. Him cutting Marco's wing was with his own swinging power.
WrongIdea21
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Nah, I'm trippin.
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He has no feats on that level with his punches, and it only took Zoro one sword to stop his physicals while it took all three to stop his sword.
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Well does Zoan King at least scale to 1 petaton?
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Everything but base King with punches and kicks scales to that
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Ok, so Base King is just >> 760 teratons for scaling far above Jack?
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Scales above Jack, scales to Sanji.
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What about this?
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Nah, he had his Imperial flames (which IIRC scale to 1 petaton) activated on his foot.
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Lunarian Flames which are what do the damage.
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Fine then, but I still think Sanji's raid suit is above his base and diable jambe in terms of physicality.
It's not like Base Sanji pre-exoskeleton doesn't have any feats.
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Not on his page.
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might want to check again because they are.
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Just checked. They need to be bolded tbh.
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Seems to be the vs wiki format to not do that but I agree it's hard to notice.
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What I meant was that Zoro saying his kick burned is evidence of King using imperial flames (which IIRC scale to Buso Zoro who scales to Zoan King who is 1 petaton) in the attack
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Yes, and it's like Town level
Town level Dressrosa top tiers confirmed
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What I wouldn't give for the anime calcs to be canon...
Speaking of, I seem to remember @14405User making a hefty calc for Fujitora's meteor from Stampede that used the new atmosphere size and in the comments wasn't rejected...
Speaking of, I seem to remember @14405User making a hefty calc for Fujitora's meteor from Stampede that used the new atmosphere size and in the comments wasn't rejected...
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This is why we need a "toeiverse" One Piece thing, or at least extra profiles-
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Probably just profiles for the Monster Trio and Anime/Movie only characters
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I've literally been saying this for months.
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Here it is, and it comes out to roughly 68.7 petatons.
If it were accepted, since Stampede Zoro < Bullet < Roger >= Oden < Present Kaido = Yonko tier, all the Toeiverse God Tiers would scale to it.
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You wouldn't even need to do that bullet scaling (also because they straight up didn't fight), Stampede Zoro is Just Zoro pre-wano and thus you could scale that feat to a lot more people than just the god tiers in the toeiverse.
