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Wait, Robin's attack was strong enough to break a few of Transformed Monet's fangs off, and her fangs are strong enough to clash with Tashigi's haki-imbued sword. So why is Robin scaling below Monet and Tashigi?Yall pulling scaling chains out of yall asses.
Tashigi ~ Monet > Robin and Nami > Green Dragon > Red Dragon > Gear 2nd Luffy
Doflamingo > G2nd Luffy for calling him physically weak. DJ Sanji > G2nd Luffy for Doflamingo calling him physically strong.
Doflamingo > DJ Sanji for blocking his kick with his leg
Doflamingo > Luffy's Dura ~ Kata > Oven.
Sanji and Jinbe's scaling is wrong.
They currently scale to 2x Wadatsumi for hurting him with Energy Steroids, who took a hit from Luffy without it. Read FMI again.
Luffy broke his tooth.
They'd just scale with Jinbe being able to 1v1 him and Sanji taking a hit from both of them.
Jinbe's AP ~ G2nd Luffy's AP
Sanji's AP ~ Vergo's AP ~ Sanji's Dura
Zoro's scaling is also wrong, because we act as if Zoro's casual AP is over Hyo when that's his strongest moves, then we list everybody as "more of a threat than Hyouzou who has a durability feat".
Zoro'd scale where he scales for casually hurting Monet and being casually stronger than her and the other Straw Hats, and his stronger techniques would scale to 4x Luffy, instead of the narrative that he's casually 4x stronger.
Definitely wouldn't say comparable damage to Overdosed Hody as Gear 2nd. Gear 2nd while injured knocked him across the ocean and made it hard for him to breathe. Base with Haki knocked him into cliffs.Should we include a rating for base Luffy with Buso? He was able to do somewhat comparable damage to overdosed Hody as Gear 2nd (plus some feats against Doffy)
We're not scaling Hody to G2nd. We're just saying G3rd did more damage to Monster than G2nd did to Overdosed.Edit: just realised regular Base Luffy is scaling to Overdosed Body's rating, so if we scale Overdosed Hody to Gear 2nd's rating what happens to Base Luffy?
If we're not scaling Hody to gear 2nd how would the multiplier apply to Gear third?We're not scaling Hody to G2nd. We're just saying G3rd did more damage to Monster than G2nd did to Overdosed.
G3rd did more damage to Monster Hody than G2nd did to Overdosed Hody.If we're not scaling Hody to gear 2nd how would the multiplier apply to Gear third?
Maybe I'm wrong but that doesn't seem to justify a multiplier for it, just that Gear Third is stronger than Gear second by a lot.G3rd did more damage to Monster Hody than G2nd did to Overdosed Hody.
^See, now we can't even do that, cause then it's some shit in logic that won't work.
Unless we amp the pill multiplier, we can't do it, since before G2nd scaled unquantifiably above base
Wait, Robin's attack was strong enough to break a few of Transformed Monet's fangs off, and her fangs are strong enough to clash with Tashigi's haki-imbued sword. So why is Robin scaling below Monet and Tashigi?
But why not?It makes more sense but we don't accept it.
A lesson.But why not?
For Fairy Tail,
No.we accept a 4x multiplier for things like Fire Dragon King Mode Natsu and Alegria form Mirajane because they did more damage to Spriggan-tier opponents than Dragon Force Gajeel did (and Dragon Force is a >=4x multiplier like the 2 steroid pills were for Hody).
Those people scale above their own multipliers.I see next to no difference.
Huh? I think maybe you're misunderstanding me. I agree with you that Robin shouldn't scale to Monet for just breaking her body apart. But when she broke Monet's body apart she broke off a few of Transformed Monet's fangs, which were strong enough to clash with Tashigi's haki-imbued sword without breaking. That's why I asked Tempest my question in the first place.This isn't really valid; just breaking apart a Logia.
Robin could also break Aokiji into pieces but she obviously doesn't scale to Aokiji.
I swear to god Essesso, you pull this shit one more time and you’ll face my wrathBut why not?
For Fairy Tail, we accept a 4x multiplier for things like Fire Dragon King Mode Natsu and Alegria form Mirajane because they did more damage to Spriggan-tier opponents than Dragon Force Gajeel did (and Dragon Force is a >=4x multiplier like the 2 steroid pills were for Hody).
I see next to no difference.
You mean I haven't faced it already?I swear to god Essesso, you pull this shit one more time and you’ll face my wrath
noYou mean I haven't faced it already?
unquantifiably higher than g2ndAlso @KingTempest , what will Gear 3 scale to, then?
Well that's disappointing.unquantifiably higher than g2nd
Same except we remove the "Gear 2nd+Busoshoku Haki" partsHow the tiers would look like after the revision?
One more thing about the Gear 3rd scaling:It makes more sense but we don't accept it.
No if Hody’s dura is 5 points.One more thing about the Gear 3rd scaling:
So if Gear 2nd damaged something with a durability of, say, 20 points, but Gear 3rd did clearly more damage to something with a durability of >= 80 points, shouldn't that be valid for evidence of Gear 3rd being >= 4x Gear 2nd?
The difference is that those people don’t get hurt (Hyouzou, Wadatsumi’s tooth was broken)I mean, that's basically the reasoning we're using for people scaling to 2-4 times gear 2nd who do more damage to people on 1-2 steroids than Gear 2nd Luffy did to those same people when they weren't on steroids (like Hyouzou and Wadatsumi).
There’s no minimum. It’s only 2x. They say it’s a 2xAlso, a support for this is how the energy steroids are AT LEAST a 2x multiplier each (so 2x is just the minimum), as stated in a recent CRT on Hyouzou's AP and how it backscales from his steroid buff
I'll tenatively agree to that.No if Hody’s dura is 5 points.
I think I understand that.The difference is that those people don’t get hurt (Hyouzou, Wadatsumi’s tooth was broken)
Multiplying someone’s dura and scaling off of that is completely different than scaling off multiplied AP.
Then why was Base Hyouzou's ap put at "at most 1/4" of his AP with 2 steroids (which each double his AP, so a total 4x multiplier)?There’s no minimum. It’s only 2x. They say it’s a 2x
At most for the amount he ate, not the multiplier of an individual steroid. Hyouzou ate at least two steroids.Then why was Base Hyouzou's ap put at "at most 1/4" of his AP with 2 steroids (which each double his AP, so a total 4x multiplier)?
Oh, I see.At most for the amount he ate, not the multiplier of an individual steroid. Hyouzou ate at least two steroids.
I unlocked his profile.I need Luffy unlocked