One Piece Chapter 992 Thread: "Remnants" (Official Release)

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Either today or tomorrow the thread will be updated with fan translations for chapter 992 and on the 16th the official release will be out.

Link to Official Release: VIZ Mangaplus

Spoilers could potentially be discussed in this thread.

 

[Damage3245]

Unfortunately the next chapter won't be out until the 16th.

 

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Thanks, the threads been updated.

 

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Spoilers:
Don't know how valid these are yet.

 

[Eminiteable]

Seems these spoilers are legit. Guess Kaido should have electricity manipulation then depending on the attack he uses.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Kaido just keep getting all of his techniques countered by the scabbards. They really went all out and create techniques just for the purpose of countering Kaido

 

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More spoilers are out:

 

[KobsterHope07]

So Raizo have Attack Reflection with his ninja scrolls

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

I guess so. Okiku has some snow technique and Kin has the ability to cut flames. I wonder what else these Scabbards have to offer against Kaido.

 

[Stefano4444]

I guess they did prepare themself to fight Kaido.

Those techniques seen to have been made just to counter Kaido, and it doesn't seen unlikely considering they have years to prepare for this war.

 

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Update: more spoilers

 

[KobsterHope07]

The samurai are just keep showing why Kaido shouldn’t have mess with them and their country. They want revenge for what happen to their lord and as the saying goes, ‘Revenge is best served Boiled Oden‘

 

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Katakuri: lowly son
Marco: a man of prestige

 

[Voltairee]

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[Eminiteable]

So Kaido has electricity manipulation normally as well that he can spit out of his mouth. And the Scabbards all seem to be able to fight on par with Kaido & all are showing a wide variety of Abilities(Kawamatsu even took a direct hit).

I'm very happy for this chapter. Cause it destroys the notion that Zoro's role in the upcoming fight will just be to reopen Kaido's old wound & the colour spread has him eating out of a bowl with Kaido and a moon on.

 

[The_Calaca]

This chapter is great. Actual fight between Kaido and the Scabbards at last.

 

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Fan translations are out

 

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[RoyGundam]

Chapter is fire. And the best part is there is finally sufficient evidence to scale the Scabbards to Kaido/Oden

And Raizo has attack absorption as well as reflection

 

[Voltairee]

Can't we equate Oden's 6-B attack with the combined attack of the Scabbards and divide it by 4?

 

[Damage3245]

That reminds me. Still need to make a CRT to address the scaling for the God Tiers in One Piece.

 

[CinCameron20]

I don't think the Scabbards are at the level in which they would normally harm Kaido. We already have 2 key events that support the idea that Oden specifically has done something to allow the Scabbards to harm Kaido without his level of skill/power/haki:

1) When the Scabbards first attack Kaido, he gets a flash-back, and notes that his scar is throbbing. He also displays confusion towards the Scabbards being able to pierce his skin, questioning if they know Oden's Ryuo. This is of course after he envisions Oden in the Scabbards who are charging him, momentarily causing him to drop his guard.

2) In chapter 992, he notes again that it is strange for them to be capable of hurting him when their swordsmanship and haki both pale in comparison to Oden's, indicating that there is some outside force (Oden's Haki being activated within Kaido via the presence of those who carry on his will, maybe) rendering Kaido vulnerable.

However, with the 6-B stuff being under question (and still the 6-C Fujitora meteor scaling to Doffy's threads matter to discuss), Kaido will end up in the same tier as the scabbards anyways, just listed as being "At least" or potentially "higher". There's also smaller feats that still need to be calc'd like Law using Telekinesis (Takt) to redirect Fujitora's Meteorite from hitting the Sunny.

If anything, if things go with either 6-C (or everyone is High 7-A in the upper tiers), it will look like this:

Doffy: 6-C -> G4(BM) Luffy: 6-C -> Kaido: At least 6-C (via damaging G4 Luffy and tanking hits from him) -> Scabbards: At least X-tier (depends where Jack ultimately ends up after the arc), possibly 6-C (Depending what comes of this whole "damage" debacle, and if they have feats against any other characters).

In the end, they might end up in the same tier regardless, but there's currently no support for the Scabbards being comparable to Oden/Kaido if there's currently a plot-device in play making it possible for them to actually hurt him this badly.

If we get some PST explanation like "Oh, Oden's Haki still lingers in Kaido's body, and Oden gave some of his to his followers, ya-dah ya-dah", they shouldn't be upgraded to Kaido's tier. Otherwise, if nothing comes of this, and they all just somehow got this strong, they scale. (Doffy < G4 Luffy < Kin'emon where's the logic )

 

[LordGinSama]

6-C OP seems to be the most likely if the 6-B calc gets removed, to which personally I see no point of but there's a few 6-C feats the god tiers would scale decently above.

 

[RoyGundam]

I don't think the Scabbards are at the level in which they would normally harm Kaido. We already have 2 key events that support the idea that Oden specifically has done something to allow the Scabbards to harm Kaido without his level of skill/power/haki:

1) When the Scabbards first attack Kaido, he gets a flash-back, and notes that his scar is throbbing. He also displays confusion towards the Scabbards being able to pierce his skin, questioning if they know Oden's Ryuo. This is of course after he envisions Oden in the Scabbards who are charging him, momentarily causing him to drop his guard.

2) In chapter 992, he notes again that it is strange for them to be capable of hurting him when their swordsmanship and haki both pale in comparison to Oden's, indicating that there is some outside force (Oden's Haki being activated within Kaido via the presence of those who carry on his will, maybe) rendering Kaido vulnerable.

However, with the 6-B stuff being under question (and still the 6-C Fujitora meteor scaling to Doffy's threads matter to discuss), Kaido will end up in the same tier as the scabbards anyways, just listed as being "At least" or potentially "higher". There's also smaller feats that still need to be calc'd like Law using Telekinesis (Takt) to redirect Fujitora's Meteorite from hitting the Sunny.

If anything, if things go with either 6-C (or everyone is High 7-A in the upper tiers), it will look like this:

Doffy: 6-C -> G4(BM) Luffy: 6-C -> Kaido: At least 6-C (via damaging G4 Luffy and tanking hits from him) -> Scabbards: At least X-tier (depends where Jack ultimately ends up after the arc), possibly 6-C (Depending what comes of this whole "damage" debacle, and if they have feats against any other characters).

In the end, they might end up in the same tier regardless, but there's currently no support for the Scabbards being comparable to Oden/Kaido if there's currently a plot-device in play making it possible for them to actually hurt him this badly.

If we get some PST explanation like "Oh, Oden's Haki still lingers in Kaido's body, and Oden gave some of his to his followers, ya-dah ya-dah", they shouldn't be upgraded to Kaido's tier. Otherwise, if nothing comes of this, and they all just somehow got this strong, they scale. (Doffy < G4 Luffy < Kin'emon where's the logic )

As of chapter 992, I strongly believe that the Scabbards should be scaled to Kaido/Oden. They should also have three keys : 1. 20 years ago, 2. present day, prior to Wano Arc and 3. Onigashima battle. If it is later revealed that there was outside influence in their battle against Kaido, they just go back to scaling to Jack

I feel it should be uncontroversial to say that Onigashima Kinnemon >>> Dressrosa Kinnemon

 

[RoyGundam]

Doffy: 6-C -> G4(BM) Luffy: 6-C -> Kaido: At least 6-C (via damaging G4 Luffy and tanking hits from him) -> Scabbards: At least X-tier (depends where Jack ultimately ends up after the arc), possibly 6-C (Depending what comes of this whole "damage" debacle, and if they have feats against any other characters).

Why you gotta delegitimize what's happening by calling it a "debacle" ?

 

[The_Calaca]

Why you gotta delegitimize what's happening by calling it a "debacle" ?

You clearly weren't there.

 

[RoyGundam]

I don't like the automatic assumption that anything that is being shown in the manga is an outlier

 

[CinCameron20]

I'm not delegitimizing the Scabbards. If it's proven they are comparable to Oden/Kaido later on, cool. But Kaido has made 2 direct statements about it being "strange" for the Scabbards to be capable of cutting him.

Saying that they are beneath Oden/Kaido is not me suggesting they are trash. They are individually equal or superior to Jack depending who you are looking at, and keep in mind that Jack went to battle against Tsuru and Fujitora and did some damage. It's within my expectation for 9 Jack+ tier combatants to be capable of posing a threat to Kaido, but if Kaido himself is thinking to himself about how weird it is for individuals "inferior to Oden" to be capable of cutting him, then it's within reason to be suspicious about what this could imply.

If we just get a comment from them or Kaido (or Oden from the past) explaining their usage of Ryuo and they are each capable of using it to this extent, upgrading them is perfectly fine (for Haki stat, at least)

 

[RoyGundam]

BTW the last attack in chapter 992 - where they imitated Oden Nitoryu was performed by just 4 of the scabbards (Kin'emon, Ashura Douji, Inuarashi and Denjiro)

 

[Eminiteable]

We'll know for sure next chapter, Kawamatsu was hit directly by Kaido.

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

Viz Translation for the chapter is finally out. The only big disappointment of this chapter is that this week we don't get to see what is happening with the immortal Pound and his two daughters

 

[The_Calaca]

Much better if you ask me.

 

[RoyGundam]

I'm glad that Pound re-united with his daughters, but that story had overstayed it's welcome months ago

 

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Kaido called an Ogre

 

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With Kaido being confirmed an Ogre we could probably add that to his classifications on his page.