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One Above All vs. Kami Tenchi

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What? Let me get this straight.... in this thread The presence > 2018 TOAA

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2474110?useskin=oasis

And here its says that Presence is only tier 1-A

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Presence

While here kami tenchi is a clear tier 0, thus making him greater than The Presence who is merely tier 1-A , Who on the other hand is greater than 2018 tOAA as shown in the above cited thread.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kami_Tenchi

That being said, since The Presence is > Toaa and Kami Tenchi is > The Presence; since tier 0 is greater than tier 1-A. Then Kami Tenchi is now obviously more powerful than toaa who has been bested by the presence who is weaker than Kami Tenchi.

based on this I'm going with kami tenchi
 
And going by feats, it is stated by Toaa in his recent appearance in " Thanos: The infinity conflict" That he can no longer function in an unstable multiverse. On the other hand Kami Tenchi disstabilized the existence or multiverse by just merely showing himself. With that being said, since Kami Tenchi can make the multiverse unstable and 2018 TOAA cannot function in an unstable multiverse, then that means Kami Tenchi can now beat the 2018 TOAA.

Here a link to the picture in which TOAA said that can no longer function or is no longer omni in an unwell functioning system.

https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=...0&client=safari&prmd=ivn#imgrc=oIGU_0BMzjm7CM

So KAMI TENCHI wins cuz marvel has downgraded TOAA as of 2018
 
This thread was made back may 2018, but sad to say as of november 2018 toaa already got his ass nerfed hard. So it's obvious that the guys above who favored toaa had no idea yet at that time that toaa would be nerfed by the end of last year.

So now Kami Tenchi takes this for above reasons
 
Saying that Kami Tenchi would lose to toaa just bcuz he lacks feats is kind of hypocritical, because tha same logic goes to toaa, the latter also lacks feats which suggests the that he is omnipotent. On the in starlins comics, TOAA could not even stop thanos from taking a universal regulator and could not even fixed tha jammed multiverse and he admitted that he (toaa) himself is no longer all powerful in a not-well functioning multiverse. And given the fact that Kami can effortlessly destroy the multeverse or jammed it without even noticing by just appearing in it, that feat alone shatters TOAA self admitted non-omnipotent which is caused by just distorting the multiverse, in which Kami is effortlessly really good at.

So Kami Wins against the self debunked toaa
 
Ëy132 said:
What? Let me get this straight.... in this thread The presence > 2018 TOAA

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2474110?useskin=oasis

And here its says that Presence is only tier 1-A

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Presence

While here kami tenchi is a clear tier 0, thus making him greater than The Presence who is merely tier 1-A , Who on the other hand is greater than 2018 tOAA as shown in the above cited thread.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kami_Tenchi

That being said, since The Presence is > Toaa and Kami Tenchi is > The Presence; since tier 0 is greater than tier 1-A. Then Kami Tenchi is now obviously more powerful than toaa who has been bested by the presence who is weaker than Kami Tenchi.

based on this I'm going with kami tenchi
Are you kidding me? This is definitely the Tier 0 TOAA (writer). In that case neither wins.
 
TOAA created everything in Marvel and views Oblivion as fiction.

And don't try to say AAO=TOAA. AAO is just a mere avatar of TOAA. And don't use old threads to try to "justify" your ludicrous statements.

Also, this was put on the Fun & Games Board for a reason.
 
Kami tenchi takes this. He has no stated weakness. Meanwhile TOAA does have the weakness of somebody seizing control of the regulators placed in individual universes. Since he has a weakness he is technically not omnipotent. So kami tenchi wins.
 
It's a stalemate dude cuz Above all others is just the avatar of toaa much like fulcrum. And on the other hand, kami tenchi fills the same purpose as toaa. Thet both pertain to the idea of " God " as the supreme being.

So stalemate
 
Unless of course you wanna count the fact that Toaa was Not able to fix a multiversal crisis even though he tried and seeked the help of LT and adam warlock to fix it. Whereas, Kami tenchi was casually destroying a Multiverse by just personally appearing in it and he also fix the same by just giving a life advice to human tenchi.

Then we count those feats KAMI WINS.


BUT OF COURSE LOGICWISE omni vs omni = stalemate
 
SO ALL IN ALL. Under General consensus Toaa and kami are just as powerful as one another. I mean c'mon they are essentially the same Thing. So again it's an inconclusive match hence a TIE
 
Ëy132 said:
What? Let me get this straight....
in this thread The presence > 2018 TOAA

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2474110?useskin=oasis And here its says that Presence is only tier 1-A

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Presence

While here kami tenchi is a clear tier 0, thus making him greater than The Presence who is merely tier 1-A , Who on the other hand is greater than 2018 tOAA as shown in the above cited thread.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kami_Tenchi

That being said, since The Presence is > Toaa and Kami Tenchi is > The Presence; since tier 0 is greater than tier 1-A. Then Kami Tenchi is now obviously more powerful than toaa who has been bested by the presence who is weaker than Kami Tenchi.

based on this I'm going with kami tenchi
TOAA has 2 keys, the 1-A key is solely because of that one time he couldn't stop Thanos. The Presence stomps because he's high as **** on the 1-A scale and DC Cosmology >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvel Cosmology. DC's planes of existence reaches archetypal infinity, Marvel doesn't. Therefore, Presence's infinity is bigger than AAO's.

With the new tier revision, Kami Tenchi is very likely gonna be on Low 1-A instead of Tier 0. Tenchi Muyo's cosmology isn't as big as Marvel's.
 
With the new tier revision, Kami Tenchi is very likely gonna be on Low 1-A instead of Tier 0. Tenchi Muyo's cosmology isn't as big as Marvel's.

Can you make a synopsis of the revisions? I've tried to read the threads but I don't undestand what's happening
 
With the new revisions you won't need to large hierarchy to qualify for Tier 0. Kami Tenchi being the supreme of Tenchi Muyo should stay at Tier 0 imo
 
Though I still stand that GENERALLY Toaa = kami Tenchi but featwise Kami has an edge, Toaa couldn't fix his OWN multiverse and/or his own Creation while kami fix his by just giving a life comment.It doesn't actually matter if marvel's cosmology is bigger than muyo because If a being is omnipotent like both kami and Toaa it would have been easy for such being to fix a multiversal crisis, unfortunately toaa ultimately failed to fix a multiversal crisis while kami tenchi easily succeeded. But again both are omni so it's still A TIE in the end.
 
Unoriginal Memes said:
And don't try to say AAO=TOAA. AAO is just a mere avatar of TOAA.
This is ridicolous.

TOAA has been called many things, "The One Who Is Above All," "The One Who Is Above Even Gods," and now The Above All Others.

But it wasn't until recently when TOAA was revaled to not be omnipotent that excuses like "a mere avatar" came up. There's no evidence of this "avatar" theory, no hints in the comic, no tweets, nothing. But it pops up everywhere.
 
Then how about you actually try making a CRT (Probably will get rejected as many mods have agreed with the avatar explanation), and quit yapping about it on an inappropriate board.

Also, TOAA has literally shown to see people like Oblivion as 2D.
 
Unoriginal Memes said:
Then how about you actually try making a CRT (Probably will get rejected as many mods have agreed with the avatar explanation), and quit yapping about it on an inappropriate board.
I'm just pointing out that it's a baseless fan theory. Like I said, there's absolutely no evidence to support this.

Also there's no really no reason to do it before the Infinity Ending is released digitally.
 
Kami, he doesn't seem to be limited (in his anime) unlike the TOAA who is. The presence (1-A) has been shown to be stronger than TOAA. Nobody is stronger than Kami. Both aren't omnipotent (stop saying that, proof by fallacy is a terrible argument).

Kami vs The One Above All (0-1-0)
 
Al ewing version of toaa which is the tier 0 one doesn't have limits. Al ewing is literally TOAA that created all comic books, stories, narratives and charafters. AAO is just a god above universes (not even a writer just a comic book writer)
 
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