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It's kinda gone nowhere

I say 8-C is a consistent rating and that stuff is hard as fork to calc, and that Low 7-B isn't really that much of an outlier when you line everything up
 
Has anybody messaged some other staff members for help? Avoid bothering Ryukama though, as he is very overworked.

A summary of the arguments so far would also be useful. Perhaps I can help you out after reading it.
 
DMUA kind of just gave up calling that feat because it would be too difficult even for him.

So as of right now, we are stuck with "somewhere within 8-C" without a concrete result, which I struggle to accept.
 
Do you mean Season 10?

Yeah, it was rushed and the authors had to come up with a way to and a story arc in one episode, PISing themselves to a conclusion, we know the deal.
 
Also, that FSM scene was still pretty good, even if it has weird implications for his state of being.
 
DMB 1 said:
Do you mean Season 10?

Yeah, it was rushed and the authors had to come up with a way to and a story arc in one episode, PISing themselves to a conclusion, we know the deal.
Yeah,I mean season 10
 
Has anybody taken my earlier advice and asked some knowledgeable staff members for help yet?
 
Season 11 has a feat where Kai's Fire either vaporizes or pulverizes the top of some stone spikes. Not much, but all the ninja are also heavily weakened and out of shape, so it's probably a good supporting feat.
 
If the storm feats are not as consistent as the building level feats, then they should be building level. But I agree that unknown is unnecessary if there are consistent feats in the series.
 
Yes, feel free to ask them about it.
 
Just from reading the OP (I haven't gotten to the discussion in the replies yet):

Rating as Unknown isn't necessary in a case like this. Worst case scenario, if the character has as many high-ends as low showings, rate him/them/whatever as "varies from X to Y at their peak" and leave a note saying how inconsistency makes it difficult to properly determine the character's overall power outside of their highest showings. We do this for Spongebob, Calypso('s durability in base), Lobo, Johnny Bravo and I'm sure plenty of others. It's not that big of a deal.
 
I really don't know if a varies rating is justified here, a good portion of shows are inconsistent but that doesn't normally mean the characters have a fluctuating power level that makes a solid rating impossible to determine
 
I'll state this again:

Ninjago may be inconsistent at times, yes, but not to the point where we should give every character an Unknow or Variable Tier. They definitely aren't Gag characters whose portrayal of power changes from episode to episode, and are consistently shown as Superhuman with feats ranging from Tier 9 to tier 8.

Low 7-B would be the outlier as it's feat performed with a great amount of ease by characters who should scale to others who have to at least put some effort in performing feats around 8-C.

I'm saying that Low-end Tier 8 would be consistent enough for the characters as there are enough things that support it: Morro dismantling a building, Kai annihilating stone spikes, some of the creatures they take on, Jay being able to use natural lighting in battle, etcetera.
 
DMB 1 seems to make sense to me.
 
Which is why I wanted someone to calc Morro's building feat, but apparently it's more difficult than I thought.
 
You can message a few calc group members about it, if you wish.
 
So, 8-C is a reasonable Tier then? Would it be okay to use the energy for lightning as the AP then since there are usages or natural lightning?
 
DMB 1 said:
I'm saying that Low-end Tier 8 would be consistent enough for the characters as there are enough things that support it: Morro dismantling a building, Kai annihilating stone spikes, some of the creatures they take on, Jay being able to use natural lighting in battle, etcetera.
@Yobo

I suppose so, yes.
 
Since Natural Lighting Bolts aren't 8-C+ anymore, should we calc some feats or just l├▓eave it as a vague 8-C?

There's also Aspheera's beats overflowing a Pyramid with lava just by awakening, but as of right now, I don't think it would scale to anyone.
 
So which feats can be used to scale from then?
 
DMB 1 said:
There's also Aspheera's beats overflowing a Pyramid with lava just by awakening, but as of right now, I don't think it would scale to anyone.
This would actually scale to (other than herself, who did this feat even without the Scroll) to anyone who wields the Forbidden Scroll.

The feat happens here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMHAVYqHgo0 at 9.29

I put 9:29 so that you can actually see how the Pyramid scales to an average human.

I can find more clips/scans of the Pyramid and the feat itself if necessary.
 
also, the spinjitzu boost is confirmed to be massive, since it allowed Aspheera to overthrow Mambo singlehandedly
 
Can somebody provide an easy to understand summary of the conclusions so far here?
 
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