Omni-Man vs Bardock | 2-3-0

[Brogeefrong]

in here b4 the death battle
Omni-Man is Low 5-B (567 Exatons)
Pre-Limits Broken Bardock is used, starts in the Oozaru, and is 5-C (296 Exatons, probably)
Speed is equalized
Fight takes place where it's happening in Death Battle
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Omni-Man (Image Comics)

Omni-Man (Nolan Grayson) is a fictional character in the Image Comics Universe. Omni-Man is the father of Invincible and a member of Viltrumite race, born on the planet Viltrum. His father, Argall, was the Viltrumites' leader. When he was very young, his father was killed by a turncoat, who no...

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Bardock (DBS Manga)

Bardock is a low-class Saiyan warrior, the mate of Gine, and the father of Raditz and Kakarot. A devoted and loyal warrior despite his low class, he has a shred of humanity somewhere hidden deep inside his Saiyan Heart, and with the rumors of the Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God, he grows ever...

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[Accelerated_Evolution]

In a life-and-death battle...what sorta idiot would think about anything else besides victory? I fight when there's an enemy I wanna beat down. Nothing more to it!

Bardock directly acknowledged Death Battle fr fr

Given that the difference between their AP is less of 2x and that Bardock greatly upscales from the 5-C value, the aparent power gap shouldn't be a problem

Ig it goes down to experience and Bardock's capability of getting stronger during the fight

 

[Brogeefrong]

Omni-Man also got higher LS

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Omni-Man also got higher LS

 

[Spinoirr]

Bardock can just blow up a ki blast in his hand to blow them both up to escape his grasp like he did vs Gas lol

 

[Fezzih_007]

Can Bardock Control his SM form? I don't remember, but If he can't, Omniman might have the skill advantage for a while, until Bardock start surpassing him in strenght.

 

[Brogeefrong]

Can Bardock Control his SM form? I don't remember, but If he can't, Omniman might have the skill advantage for a while, until Bardock start surpassing him in strenght.

if you mean the oozaru pretty sure he can cause there were oozaru's on planet cereal when he was invading it

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Aren't King Vegeta/Vegeta the only people who can control their Oozaru form?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Actually Paragus claims that a non-combatant like Beets would not be able to control himself, implying that combatants like him and Bardock could do so.

 

[Brogeefrong]

bump

 

[Fezzih_007]

I pretty sure Bardock just grow stronger than Omniman eventually, and defeats him, so i vote him.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Bardock coz LS sucks.

 

[Pyro9278]

Bardock FRA

 

[Chariot190]

Bardock can just blow up a ki blast in his hand to blow them both up to escape his grasp like he did vs Gas lol

With what hand? Nolan is gonna rip it off instantly. Or his head, that works too.
Also Nolan starts off stronger, 2x is quite a bit against a dude who can literally rip your head off the instant he touches you. Zenkai really ain't gonna be kicking in if he gets torn in half right off the bat.

 

[Chariot190]

Could just fire a mouth beam aswell

Bro, if Nolan gets his mitts on Bardock, he's getting literally ripped in half. Invin dudes abuse the shit out of LS, and they also have the LS to actually like, be useful in their ballpark.

Bardock's only bet here is to never engage Nolan in CQC because he just gets dismembered if he does, long before any method of bridging the gap comes into play, it'd be like ripping a piece of paper in half.

And again, Nolan starts off twice as strong and has the stamina and pain tolerance to keep ripping him in half even if Bardock melts his face off with a ki beam.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Pretty sure Nolan needs to output the AP needed to rip him apart too, just LS won't matter I believe.
I do see him ripping off the tail tho

 

[StrymULTRA]

Pretty sure Nolan needs to output the AP needed to rip him apart too, just LS won't matter I believe.

If the stat difference isn't that far then he should be able to, not "no-diff" at least, but with some difficulty.

We ain't making Jotaro tearing apart things like (base) Genos only coz "LE EPIC LIFTING" ofc tho.

 

[Chariot190]

Pretty sure Nolan needs to output the AP needed to rip him apart too, just LS won't matter I believe.
I do see him ripping off the tail tho

Not at all, that only applies for crushing, not ripping or tearing.

Crushing involves pushing mechanics, Bardock tanking a particular strong punch would grant him the relative shear and compressive as a punch would interact with those mechanics.

Pulling though, not so much, and last I checked Bardock doesnt have any dura feats thatd fall under that. Not that itd matter because Nolan starts off with the higher AP anyway.

If the stat difference isn't that far then he should be able to, not "no-diff" at least, but with some difficulty.

We ain't making Jotaro tearing apart things like (base) Genos only coz "LE EPIC LIFTING" ofc tho.

Of course not, Genos has the required feats to do so. If he didnt, he would be though.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Not at all, that only applies for crushing, not ripping or tearing.

Crushing involves pushing mechanics, Bardock tanking a particular strong punch would grant him the relative shear and compressive as a punch would interact with those mechanics.

Pulling though, not so much, and last I checked Bardock doesnt have any dura feats thatd fall under that. Not that itd matter because Nolan starts off with the higher AP anyway.

Of course not, Genos has the required feats to do so. If he didnt, he would be though.

I don't we've ever accepted vastly higher LS as being able to just negate someone's dura if they're a lot more durable than their AP.

 

[Catbowtie]

Wait, what is the practical use of LS if Chariot is wrong?

 

[Chariot190]

I don't we've ever accepted vastly higher LS as being able to just negate someone's dura if they're a lot more durable than their AP.

It is what it is.

There obviously comes a gap where it cant be overcome due to how work works.

But here? Nah, Bardock gets torn in half casually. Even if Bardock had the initial advantage in AP, it wouldnt be large enough to stop the utter eclipse that Nolan has in LS with no feats backing Bardock up. Doesnt help Invin dudes on Nolans level can LS other 5-Cs to death either.

Wait, what is the practical use of LS if Chariot is wrong?

They fear the LS, it is what it is. AP propaganda....

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Wait, what is the practical use of LS if Chariot is wrong?

Grappling and pinning the opponent more effectively so they're less of a threat.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Of course not, Genos has the required feats to do so. If he didnt, he would be though.

1st key Genos is 7-C and Class 5 tho...

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

did want to point out that Bardock is in Oozaru form, meaning the LS advantage is noticeably harder to use due to the sheer size of him

 

[Chariot190]

1st key Genos is 7-C and Class 5 tho...

Their LS isnt what matters, but rather durability mechanics. He DO got the required dura feats at least even if he just gets pinned anyway.

did want to point out that Bardock is in Oozaru form, meaning the LS advantage is noticeably harder to use due to the sheer size of him

Strangle him with his own tail.
Rip the tail off actually.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Strangle him with his own tail.
Rip the tail off actually.

Oozaru tails don't reach that far, and if he tries to go for the tail off Bardock probably is just going to nuke the general area in order to avoid it

 

[Chariot190]

Oozaru tails don't reach that far, and if he tries to go for the tail off Bardock probably is just going to nuke the general area in order to avoid it

Nolan not only starts off twice as strong, but will fight through conventionally fatal wounds. You could gut Nolan and he would still rip his tail off.

Nuking wont help, he'd just keep on going. Invin mfs have such actually stupid pain tolerance you may as well have to instant kill them to actually get them to back off.

Plus, if it wont reach, he'll MAKE it reach.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Nolan not only starts off twice as strong, but will fight through conventionally fatal wounds. You could gut Nolan and he would still rip his tail off.

Uh, Bardock's ki attacks do more than just gutting

Nuking wont help, he'd just keep on going. Invin mfs have such actually stupid pain tolerance you may as well have to instant kill them to actually get them to back off.

If Bardock nukes his attack potency would skyrocket to a more similar level to Nolan (if not higher) and that could vaporize him, even assuming he survives with an immense pain tolerance Bardock can just respond with another nuke after seeing his opponent is still standing.

Also, the chances of deciding to rip off the tail specifically isn't that likely since he doesn't know anything about the Oozaru form. He'd more likely go for the arms or legs first which gives Bardock more chances to just vaporize Nolan.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Gohan did vaporize Cell when he was his equal with a Kamehameha, but like, I don't think Bardock will have the time to make an attack like that.

 

[Huesito88]

Gohan did vaporize Cell when he was his equal with a Kamehameha, but like, I don't think Bardock will have the time to make an attack like that.

That's not something we apply to matches

 

[Chariot190]

Uh, Bardock's ki attacks do more than just gutting

Theyre actually gonna be doing less given the initial AP disadvantage coupled with Nolan having heat res well beyond what Bardock can push out.

If Bardock nukes his attack potency would skyrocket to a more similar level to Nolan (if not higher) and that could vaporize him

No it cant, im not humoring this. Show me Bardock vaporizing someone who outscales, "damage boost", means nothing on its own, show me Bardock's attacks that have jumps that high like say Piccolo's.
Also show me Bardock's ki attack temps because mind you, a few seconds of hundreds of millions of degrees isnt enough to damage a weaker Mark.

, even assuming he survives with an immense pain tolerance Bardock can just respond with another nuke after seeing his opponent is still standing.

Dude, Bardock would be ripped in half ir dead?

Also, the chances of deciding to rip off the tail specifically isn't that likely since he doesn't know anything about the Oozaru form.

He doesnt need to know, it's a giant tail, he'd probably rip it off just to strangle him with it or to toss him into space or something.

He'd more likely go for the arms or legs first which gives Bardock more chances to just vaporize Nolan.

Except no, stop, be real.
Bardock isnt vaporizing a dude who has heat res better than any dude till Freeza who already outstats.

 

[Catbowtie]

Voting Omni-man because he will rip Bardock apart.

 

[SlendVeny]

Nolan might also just grab the tail, spin him around, and toss him into space.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Nolan might also just grab the tail, spin him around, and toss him into space.

Bardock can sorta fly.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Actually nevermind.

Weaknesses: Though it is possible that Bardock trained the weakness away, he can become weakened and disoriented if his tail is grabbed or removed. He needs a moon in order to transform and cannot control himself as a Great Ape.

So is just bardock who can't exactly fight propelly, he gonna get outsmart.

 

[SlendVeny]

Bardock can sorta fly.

I don't remember Oozarus flying very often, but Vegeta did it for a little bit, so maybe.

 

[SlendVeny]

Actually nevermind.

So is just bardock who can't exactly fight propelly, he gonna get outsmart.

I'm pretty sure Bardock as an Oozaru was shown hunting people around and actively chose to de-transform.

 

[Chariot190]

Also as a side note.

Since when did Bardock have an Explosive Wave technique?
If he just nukes the area to catch omni, he's gonna be hurting himself even more? It isnt like he's immune to his own attacks.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I'm pretty sure Bardock as an Oozaru was shown hunting people around and actively chose to de-transform.

He probally doing more out of instinct tbh. I don't think he can do a full against Omni Man just using instincts.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I don't remember Oozarus flying very often, but Vegeta did it for a little bit, so maybe.

That's because most enemies don't fight Oozarus in a way where they need to, typically their opponents are just flying around them close enough to counter attack or just hiding on the ground somewhere