No, I believe the move you are thinking of is Piccolo's Explosive Power Demon Wave and it's Super variation.
"But it's just a basic attack except for this one because-".
Prove it.
Explosive Wave itself is commonly used as it's a generic ability that's been used by Vegeta, Krillin, Goku, Trunks, Gohan, Buu, hell Cell as literal larva
qualifies as using this.
So dudes who have seen someone else use it and all have way more versatility and training than Bardock and a dude who can copy techniques at a glance and the dude who is LITERALLY these other dudes.
You for real?
None of these examples have it named and it's just them suddenly deciding to blow up with no form of buildup.
And? Prove Bardock can do it.
That's because Ki attacks aren't standard in dragon ball in general.
Actual excuses, prove he can do it.
The only characters shown capable of doing them (in universe 7) outside of earth are Saiyans, and the elite Friza Force members such as Dodoria, Zarbon, Frieza, and the Ginyu Force, every other soldier is incapable of using Ki and rely on laser cannons in order to attack. Bardock being a Saiyan capable of using Ki makes him different in that aspect
And also not free to be able to use any technique you wish he could. Prove he can do it.
Explosive Wave itself isn't unique, Piccolo's Explosive Power Demon Wave is because one is a close range move used randomly by anyone that's never named in the series and the other is an actual nuke with the range of an island
Actually yapping. It's an explosive wave. Why didn't 18 do it for example? Would've been real helpful don't ya think? Especially given Piccolo literally tags in to use it.
Also don't even get on the range shit, any ki attack can have any range they want, they just pick and choose due to ki control. If they didn't, do you not understand how devasting that'd be for the verse as a whole? Everything ever would become a anti-feat.
Hell in that case, prove Bardock has any ki attacks with a range bigger then what we see on panel if you want to argue ki attack range semantics.
You are saying that as if that doesn't counter-act back to you, since these increases of power are more dramatic than what our uses for them use.
No what it means is a that a dude can main a DBZ dude with a less than 2x gap, but if the dude is from a verse where he can tank bigger gaps in attacks, well sucks to suck I guess. Either way, the narrative is that even a small gap let dudes stomp other dudes in DBZ, so going "well this attack stomped this other dude", doesn't exactly mean much in regards to stopping Nolan.
Ki existing by it's nature increases the user's attack power, and using our metrics which we use for things like the Super Saiyan, Bardock using energy attacks is amplifying his attack power. To what extent is unknown but we have never seen an example below 2x for charge based wave moves which the Mouth Energy Wave the Oozaru use have.
We have literally seen examples of below 2x my dude, multiple times, what are you on about? Hell the like, biggest one I can think of is only 8x atm without Kaioken or Piccolo, and that's from dudes so far beyond Bardock and exceptionally charged at that, and 8x isn't enough to kill Nolan, that'd only be 4x, dude's been HIT by dudes stronger than that and walked it off
with broken limbs but ya know, wouldnt stop him.
Like at this point you're just talking and expecting me to take your word for it, as if I haven't read and watched it myself. I know it can be lower, this isn't subject to debate, so prove Bardock can do what you claim instead of comparing him to dudes who actually have showings, showings that in and of themselves, is notable.
boy I love how everything not telekinesis has unknown LS
We've seen them struggle, it's not even a matter of being unknown, it's just so low it's baffling. Tbh idk what Toriyama was cooking, Freeza being anything but Class Y sounds braindead, yet his ass isn't even Class G outside of Toei, which, fortunately, does have planetary LS feats
ignoring GT anti-feats.
Prove that he doesn't have it, he has ki attacks, he can charge them, and he is considered a outlier in the universe due to being able to use ki
Dude, burden of proof is on you. You made the claim he has it. Prove he does. Literally all you've said is "it's a basic ki attack so he MUST have it", according to who? You? I don't want your opinion, I want what's actually shown and stated.
Being able to use Ki? Yeah so could Kid Goku, and he sure as hell can't do an explosive wave.
Stop wasting my time, prove he has it, whether by showing, statement, honestly i don't care, but unless you can actually prove it beyond conjecture, he don't have it so drop it. He simply has what he has, no more, no less.
